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Quote: Phuzzy "Fair enough mate. It wasn't a loaded question, I just wanted to know. Where would you have placed it in the range of no ban to the 4 he actually got? I know you'll be answering in light of Makinson's ban but if you can try to be impartial I'd be interested to know.

For what it's worth, my own view is that both were reds and I actually see them as very similar. I'm not totally surprised Tommy got 3 because of his previous sending off but I'm still of the opinion that's it's harsh nevertheless. Byrne's 4 was a travesty and hasn't been repeated to my knowledge.

I've had a discussion with Cruncher on here about this where I said that I understand the thinking behind the current rules. However, I think if we're going to be fairly draconian with the punishments handed out it's imperative that the disciplinary is fit for purpose and I'm not convinced it is. There is still too much of a lottery feeling about the whole process. I still can't gety head around someone putting their fingers in someone's mouth being dealt with as no proof of intention. I've literally never known anyone to accidentally put their fingers in someone else's mouth...and leave them there
I’m not really for banning after the fact, however as they were both red cards, it would probably be fair enough for an automatic 1 match ban. I think anything over 1 match should be reserved for serious foul play.

I’ll be honest and say I don’t really remember the ins and outs of the Byrne tackle, but in terms of under the current grading system in regards to Makinson, I think it is clearly careless rather than reckless so again, I’d see it as a 1 game (someone with a better disciplinary record just getting a fine)

I said on redvee but there’s no evidence that says these MRP retroactive bans are reducing bad/head high tackles. The RFL have come out and said the data for this year has been that head contacts have been significantly reduced, but that clearly can’t be down to the MRP panel as they’ve been doing their crap for years without that effect. More likely, it’s due to the rules and interpretations being changed and being punished more harshly with cards on the day, with players trying to change to obviously not cost their team a game on the day. I don’t think there’s any need for the MRP system as it currently stands in any way. Perhaps a very streamlined system whereby they take a look at incidents of serious foul play that were missed by the ref at most. Other than that, just give a 1 game ban for red cards and an accumulation of yellow cards and be done with it