and there'll be no sanctions fines suspensions because 4 defenders crashed into each other, accidents happen in a contact sport, this afternoon a defender will probably get a ban because they accidentally made contact with an attackers head, makes no sense.

I didn't really like the red card and thought it was a bit silly (Tommy went front on with his chest, wrapped his arms etc and the ref just decided to stop the game himself for no reason despite May wanting to play on) however, with the rules the way they are at the minute, I understood that it's technically correct.

Being banned for 3 games for it though is disgrace. Cannot ing stand the MRP, they are ruining the game completely

What were your thoughts on Byrne's sending off and subsequent 4 March ban on Good Friday?

Saints are to appeal the ban. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/24 ... heard-ort/

Saints are to appeal the ban. https://www.sthelensstar.co.uk/sport/24 ... heard-ort/

3 games is ridiculous!

Feel for the lad, he’s been a great servant to the club and deserves better.

I agree with the red card but 3 game ban is absolutely not deserved.

Exactly, they were all singing and dancing back then.

I didn't remember the fact he got 4 matches until you just said it lmao, did he really?

My thoughts on it are probably in here. It was a clear red card, but I'd never have supported that level of ban for it, so I probably said that was stupid. I've been very consistent with my opinion of how much the MRP are an anchor around the game's neck

In fact I've been in here more than once over this year saying how I thought bans your guys' got and people of other teams have been ridiculous

We have a two tiered approach. Wigan and Saints seem to be in the firing line more than most other clubs.

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I believe they've had most individual bans but we're neck and neck with them on accumulated matches

One of the fb RL pages, can't remember offhand which one, but it pops up on my feed does an accumulation every week, they call it "Only Bans" and as of last week HKR had the fewest with Wire just above them, if it pops up tomorrow I'll see where Saints are in the table

Fair enough mate. It wasn't a loaded question, I just wanted to know. Where would you have placed it in the range of no ban to the 4 he actually got? I know you'll be answering in light of Makinson's ban but if you can try to be impartial I'd be interested to know.

For what it's worth, my own view is that both were reds and I actually see them as very similar. I'm not totally surprised Tommy got 3 because of his previous sending off but I'm still of the opinion that's it's harsh nevertheless. Byrne's 4 was a travesty and hasn't been repeated to my knowledge.

I've had a discussion with Cruncher on here about this where I said that I understand the thinking behind the current rules. However, I think if we're going to be fairly draconian with the punishments handed out it's imperative that the disciplinary is fit for purpose and I'm not convinced it is. There is still too much of a lottery feeling about the whole process. I still can't gety head around someone putting their fingers in someone's mouth being dealt with as no proof of intention. I've literally never known anyone to accidentally put their fingers in someone else's mouth...and leave them there ... unintentionally.

On a similar note, the fines are another absolute travesty that our players who are underpaid for what they do shouldn’t have to deal with.

Lomax getting £1,500 was an absolute joke, but they shouldn’t be dealing with these fines anyway. Imagine being fined for a mistake at work. ridiculous