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| It’s a gamble but it’s a gamble both ways in multiple ways too;
Double Lammy
[iSuccess[/i
He’d be fantastic. An astute move from Rads, IL and Adrian Lam.
[iGone Wrong[/i
We’d be saying things like we do now for SW playing Powell. Adrian Lam would get slated, Rads and IL would come in for criticism and we’d be baying for blood.
Just Head Coach Lam
[iLachlan is an NRL sensation[/i
There would be bloody uproar, why wasn’t he brought here with Adrian and all that jazz. Rads and IL would be torn a new one and Adrian wouldn’t be free from flak.
[iNRL Failure[/i
This is probably the only outcome where no one gets any flak other than why we we considering it.
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| Quote: 100% Warrior "It’s a gamble but it’s a gamble both ways in multiple ways too;
Double Lammy
[iSuccess[/i
He’d be fantastic. An astute move from Rads, IL and Adrian Lam.
[iGone Wrong[/i
We’d be saying things like we do now for SW playing Powell. Adrian Lam would get slated, Rads and IL would come in for criticism and we’d be baying for blood.
Just Head Coach Lam
[iLachlan is an NRL sensation[/i
There would be bloody uproar, why wasn’t he brought here with Adrian and all that jazz. Rads and IL would be torn a new one and Adrian wouldn’t be free from flak.
[iNRL Failure[/i
This is probably the only outcome where no one gets any flak other than why we we considering it.'"
Fantastic. The only time the club's management don't get slagged off - and I'm agreeing with you here, by the way - is when it's a double-negative. In other words, we didn't take a chance and young Lammy didn't turn out to be any good (even though we'd be no better off then than we are now). But this reminds me of lots of bosses I've worked for in the past: do nothing and they can't be criticised for making an error. Thankfully, IL doesn't seem to be cut from that cloth. I live in hope that it'll actually be a double-positive - we take a chance, and Lammy Jnr turns out to be great.
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| Quote: Cruncher "Fantastic. The only time the club's management don't get slagged off - and I'm agreeing with you here, by the way - is when it's a double-negative. In other words, we didn't take a chance and young Lammy didn't turn out to be any good (even though we'd be no better off then than we are now). But this reminds me of lots of bosses I've worked for in the past
I’m with you; I’d much rather the club act and take a chance and it turn out wrong then not signing him and he turns out to be a sensation. He’s young, cheap and comes with some promise (based on the WC) we’d lose nothing if it doesn’t work out but gain everything if it does.
You could say all new signings are gambles, the only difference here is that it’s our ‘so-called’ Head Coach Elects son.
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| Is Tony Smith not available?
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Is Tony Smith not available?'"
He is in the running to be the new Chuckle Brother
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| Lam jnr may be the key to this.
Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.
He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
What Dad doesn't want their son to succeed in their dreams?
What Dad wouldn't do anything they could to get their son a big break?
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| Quote: nikos "Lam jnr may be the key to this.
Lam Jnr is not "an NRL sensation" (yet), IIRC he hasn't even played an NRL game, but maybe just needs a chance to show what he has got.
He got that chance for PNG via his dad, and maybe will get a chance of first team footie via his dad again.
What Dad doesn't want their son to succeed in their dreams?
What Dad wouldn't do anything they could to get their son a big break?'"
When the Dad is coaching the local juniors nine times out of ten it's because his son wants to play and the Dad has put his hand up to help with the coaching. I did the exact same thing myself a few years ago. So did a few others but it's a totally different thing having a go at coaching so the junior team and your son actually has a coach so they can have a game to making decisions at SL level.
We are talking SL and the needs of Wigan here, not the needs of Lam's son. If he's not played an NRL game then he is another young project player and given Wigan are crying out for a better option than Powell regardless of who's son he is, is that the sort of recruit we should be looking at? We have at least a couple of our own projects of a similar age and we'd be hoping a 20 year old Aussie junior with zero NRL experience is the answer. If he were not Lam's son I really doubt there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for such a signing.
If as some are suggesting this place would go ballistic if he turns out to be a sensation in the NRL because we didn't sign him that really is clutching at straws by predicting the future to excuse signing him. Can I have this weeks lotto numbers please? You can use that excuse to sign any kid you like. If he's got that much potential his Aussie club will be expecting him at 20 to break into the first team about [inow[/i and as such I'd expect him to be already be commanding a wage we would struggle to match.
Apart from the nepotism thing I first mentioned, the risk as I see it is we have to take Lam jnr to entice his Dad to come so it's Wigan that can give his son a break he might never get in Oz whether we really want Lam jnr or not.
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "I remember certain a certain poster not happy that Madge was coming... The usual, a rookie coach, not Wigan quality... Turned out fine.... I think some folks are happy to find a perceived fault with everything...'"
Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.
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16304_1526976105.jpg [size=100:2md8k3b3][b:2md8k3b3]'Do you remember when we had that meeting in Orlando? We talked about how we were knocked out the previous year by Leeds. And at the end, I asked you one question. "Do you want to be a semi-final team? Or do you want to do something special?" You all said you wanted to win. But talking is easy – it needed you to believe. It needed you to work hard – harder than you had – and make sacrifices. You did all that. you worked for each other. You stuck together when it was tough. And because of your efforts, you sit here tonight as champions. I'm proud of you. Be proud of yourselves. You've done something special.'
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| Quote: DaveO "Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.'"
I guess there really is a first time for everything!
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| Wasps' coach has his son as a first team regular. So did Northampton (?). In the NRL, Cleary Snr is taking over his son's team. it's hardly that rare.
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| Quote: DaveO "Who was that, because it wasn't me? I was ecstatic Noble had finally been given the boot.'"
It was AJ and RHJ, both the same person.
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| It could work both ways. The father could just as easily end up being harder on his son than any other player to prove there is no favouritism.
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| I don't think it would be a problem at all, and more than anything I would expect a father would be harder on his son than on anyone else when he is coaching him just to dispell the image that he is getting a free ride.
If Lam does get confirmed I do hope his son is our new Number 7, the only way is up concerning our current incumbent.
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| Any news on weather there is a press conference this week ref a new boss. Im getting bored of waiting. Its been months now.
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| Quote: DaveO "When the Dad is coaching the local juniors nine times out of ten it's because his son wants to play and the Dad has put his hand up to help with the coaching. I did the exact same thing myself a few years ago. So did a few others but it's a totally different thing having a go at coaching so the junior team and your son actually has a coach so they can have a game to making decisions at SL level.
We are talking SL and the needs of Wigan here, not the needs of Lam's son. If he's not played an NRL game then he is another young project player and given Wigan are crying out for a better option than Powell regardless of who's son he is, is that the sort of recruit we should be looking at? We have at least a couple of our own projects of a similar age and we'd be hoping a 20 year old Aussie junior with zero NRL experience is the answer. If he were not Lam's son I really doubt there would be a great deal of enthusiasm for such a signing.
If as some are suggesting this place would go ballistic if he turns out to be a sensation in the NRL because we didn't sign him that really is clutching at straws by predicting the future to excuse signing him. Can I have this weeks lotto numbers please? You can use that excuse to sign any kid you like. If he's got that much potential his Aussie club will be expecting him at 20 to break into the first team about [inow[/i and as such I'd expect him to be already be commanding a wage we would struggle to match.
Apart from the nepotism thing I first mentioned, the risk as I see it is we have to take Lam jnr to entice his Dad to come so it's Wigan that can give his son a break he might never get in Oz whether we really want Lam jnr or not.'"
I was with you all the way on this until the point where you say his Aussie club will be expecting him to break through. I’d agree if he wasn’t up against Cooper Cronk and let’s face it, no 20 year old souls oust Cronk from any side.
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