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We have Escare, Burgess and Tomkins in the backs, losing Charnley and Sarginson. Plus Tierney and Gildart another year older and Gelling fully fit. TL in for Matty Smith is an obvious massive improvement plus we have MM, SOL and Joel Tomkins all fit again in the pack, losing Mossop and Crosby admittedly but gaining Navarette. If we stay fit why not be confident?

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "What is it I am dreaming of exactly? Not sure what you're on about.

Just because you won it last year doesn't mean you haven't been guilty of being over-confident in the past. The cup defeat v Cas springs to mind straight away for example. Also prior to the the 2014 Grand Final I was reading about how easy it was going to be for you. My point is Wigan fans do have form for making bold predictions and falling flat on their face.

For anyone to suggest their squad is "far superior" than everyone else and "there's nobody to touch us" is extremely arrogant in my opinion and I'm sure if any fan of Saints, Warrington or Hull said the same you'd agree.

I notice a Wigan fan, "Trainman" agrees with me but nobody seems to be pulling him up for saying it's arrogant as well!
Some people have made bold statements, of course they have but I think the message that sits of the back of them is that we're pretty confident in the squad we have.

I won't sit here and say 'we will do this or that' but what I have said is that I believe we have the best squad in the league and if we don't win a major trophy this year then it will have been a season of real failure. If we keep a pretty fit squad (which hasn't started well) then I do think we have the best team on paper but that doesn't always equate to winning things.

If you want a neutrals view of clubs chances in all comps this year go and look at the bookies. We're favourites for the lot so they clearly think we're just about the best team about.

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Quote: jinkin jimmy "We have Escare, Burgess and Tomkins in the backs, losing Charnley and Sarginson. Plus Tierney and Gildart another year older and Gelling fully fit. TL in for Matty Smith is an obvious massive improvement plus we have MM, SOL and Joel Tomkins all fit again in the pack, losing Mossop and Crosby admittedly but gaining Navarette. If we stay fit why not be confident?'"


Huge huge differernt in confidence and complete and utter arrogance. I am confident Saints will be there or thereabouts when it comes to handing out trophies but I would never say we are streets ahead of everyone else and that nobody will touch us. Firstly it's simply not true, for Saints or any other team, and also even if I thought it I wouldn't say it because it's arrogant and dismissive of other teams. It's the type of statement that is likely to come back and bite you.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Some people have made bold statements, of course they have but I think the message that sits of the back of them is that we're pretty confident in the squad we have.

I won't sit here and say 'we will do this or that' but what I have said is that I believe we have the best squad in the league and if we don't win a major trophy this year then it will have been a season of real failure. If we keep a pretty fit squad (which hasn't started well) then I do think we have the best team on paper but that doesn't always equate to winning things.

If you want a neutrals view of clubs chances in all comps this year go and look at the bookies. We're favourites for the lot so they clearly think we're just about the best team about.'"


I haven't disagreed that you have one of the strongest squads and are the favourites. However, as you know but are probably too stubborn to agree with a Saints fan icon_biggrin.gif , there is huge difference in being confident and then completely dismissing the rest and claiming your miles ahead of the chasing pack, which simply isn't true.

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "What is it I am dreaming of exactly? Not sure what you're on about.

Just because you won it last year doesn't mean you haven't been guilty of being over-confident in the past. The cup defeat v Cas springs to mind straight away for example. Also prior to the the 2014 Grand Final I was reading about how easy it was going to be for you. My point is Wigan fans do have form for making bold predictions and falling flat on their face.

For anyone to suggest their squad is "far superior" than everyone else and "there's nobody to touch us" is extremely arrogant in my opinion and I'm sure if any fan of Saints, Warrington or Hull said the same you'd agree.

I notice a Wigan fan, "Trainman" agrees with me but nobody seems to be pulling him up for saying it's arrogant as well! icon_biggrin.gif

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I wonder who posted this on Red Vee on their 2017 predictions thread? eusa_whistle.gif


Saints
Wigan
Warrington
Hull
Leeds
Castleford
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Huddersfield
Salford
Widnes
Leigh

Grand Final - Saints v Wigan

Challenge Cup - Luck of the draw so hard to predict but seeing as I'm in a good mood I'll go Saints v Warrington

Saints double
Roby Man of Steel
Swift top scorer
Cunningham coach of the year

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "I wonder who posted this on Red Vee on their 2017 predictions thread?
And what does that prove? That I have a sense of humour and posted a quite clearly tongue in cheek post about us sweeping the board?

You are being selective in what you quote there as well mate as you missed out my next post in which stated I was just seeing how an optimistic outlook would go down for a change. Nice try though old chap.

Besides, even if I did predict we would win everything and meant it, I haven't said there is nobody near us and we are clearly superior to everyone.

So again, what does your post prove?

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I didn't say he did, but he continued the conversation and we are discussing it like adults. . Maybe you should try that?'"


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Quote: Jukesays "Personal insults
What insults have been used?

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Quote: The Yellow Giraffe "I didn't infer anything. You are inferring my meaning from what I said. I think you are accusing me of implying something but I am being pedantic.

You are incorrect in your assumption anyway that I meant all Wigan fans. I haven't accused ALL WIGAN FANS of anything.'"


You used the word "Yourselves".
That to me implies (Or whatever word you want to come up with) that your being Generic in your claims that Wigan Fans are arrogant or whatever.

Anyway - You say something and it's tongue in cheek
"1" Wigan fan says something and were All arrogant etc.

Go Figure icon_rolleyes.gif

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