Wigan would quite possibly be very hard to beat given they had two quality halfbacks ... but they don't ... and as long as they don't ... they will have to play it rough and tough.
Not sure why they can't go out and get a couple.
Smith is hopeless.

When Sneyd scored the first try, a fella near me remarked "Fancy a 7 scoring like that", or words to that effect. You's sure wait a long time to see it from our 7. I didn't think Hull were fantastic (they didn't need to be), but they were organised, combative, and took their chances.

I think we are the most boring team in Super League. So dull. Same old plays.

Play 1 - short ball to prop
Play 2 - short ball to prop
Play 3 - Inside ball to a forward in the middle of the field
Play 4 - Same old move to the wing that stalls because the passing is poor/slow
Play 5 - Crap panic kick from Matty Smith


ALL GAME.

Time for change. I wouldn't like to see Wane sacked, just replaced when his contract is up.

How long as he got left? Just so I can set my alarm clock.

Stop copying our plays, Cunningham thought of it first. You will start using the drop off pass, next.

The fact that when we got within 2 points of Hull, all we did was drill a kick into their 10m was absolutely shameful and proves we have a lack of ideas, creativity, organisation and skill.

Our powderpuff pack, a braindead of late captain and bang average outside backs panicking with the ball.

We deserved what we got. A good hiding and exposed for what we are.

Average.

I know I sound like a stuck record but we will waltz into the top 4 and most likely be at OT in October. Which annoys me in a sense because we are cack for most of the season but have a habit of turning it on when needed. Saints are similar - they were a 40/20 away from the GF last year and they'd had dog's abuse off their fans most of the season.

If we don't lift silverware this season that will be 3 years without and that's enough for any Wigan coach to be shown the door. We are playing a progressively worsening brand of RL and it needs fresh ideas. Wane can count himself lucky he has had players like Bateman who can drag us to finals regardless of our complete lack of structures and organisation.

I don't agree that we're one of the worst teams in the league, we clearly aren't. But we have miles more potential than we are achieving. People have said individual errors can't be blamed on the coach - I think they can.

A top coach instills focus, composure, confidence and has the team working to clearly understood plans that rub out brainfarts and panic plays. Maguire being the obvious comparison. This current team looks like a rabble potched together with sod all organisation!

Saying all that, we'll t*** Leeds at Newcastle next week

As a Hull fan, I was really happy with those plays, you were on top and causing us problems, you should have tried a more attacking play, we were winning, but still trying to win the game (although some dumb offloads) but it paid off in the end.

I reckon if you had gone for it at that period you would have won.

Around the hour mark (when we brought it back to two points) Hull looked on their feet, they were definitely there for the taking. A missed tackle later on the your 40 and you go up the field and the game was effectively over from then on.

That group of players are capable of much more than they are producing, to consistently play as bad as we are can only mean we are atemoting to play to a certain structure, that said when we do manage to move the ball around its so blatant where it's going you have to wonder why we see so many errors.

The way RL is played had changed over the last few years, it's all numbers and overlaps rather than relying on individual talent. We don't seem to have moved forwards with our structures and we have a lack of individual talent and flair to compensate. We either need new ideas or we do need some new signings with flair and creativity to compensate for our bland methods of coaching. The fact neither of these are going to happen means we are destined to watch this dire brand of rugby for a good while yet.

The captain was the dumbest of them all.

Shocking leadership and discipline last night - awful. Needs the mother of all bollockings this week.

Without John Bateman this team would be 2006 all over again.

Chris the players are useless. I'm tired of spineless, unfit, unimaginative and characterless
players of whom some play a whole 30 minutes a game albeit in 2 sessions with an hours break between the sessions.
I was SW fan but he is dead in the ditchwater. I think all this talk of middles, soft backs, toughness, the Wigan way and another tough week ahead has finally frazzled his brain.
KR and ILs recruitment policy must be the worst in any team sport outside of Newcastle. They have brought us such stars as Pettybourne, Powell, Isa and Laukaki.
The club is Amateurish to point of being funny if it wasn't so important.
A good dose of the middle 8s would be the making of this club.

Chris the players are useless. I'm tired of spineless, unfit, unimaginative and characterless
players of whom some play a whole 30 minutes a game albeit in 2 sessions with an hours break between the sessions.
I was SW fan but he is dead in the ditchwater. I think all this talk of middles, soft backs, toughness, the Wigan way and another tough week ahead has finally frazzled his brain.
KR and ILs recruitment policy must be the worst in any team sport outside of Newcastle. They have brought us such stars as Pettybourne, Powell, Isa and Laukaki.
The club is Amateurish to point of being funny if it wasn't so important.
A good dose of the middle 8s would be the making of this club.