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| If it is Wane and Scully, what better time and place to announce it than Friday night - just to get the Saints fans mad?!! Wane, Scully and IL would make a great pre or post match interview for Sky!
Or are they saving the announcement till the Big one!
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
You're right, IL's recruitment has been less than perfect. But we are SL Champions, so he must be doing something right!
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| Quote: The Ginger Pearl "I heard that its Wane but Lenegan is messing about with the contract trying to get Wane on the same money he is on as an assistant, which is extremely unfair. If I was an assistant on the verge of getting promoted i'd expect more money.'"
Waney's just got a brand new Merc according to form, so he can't be doing that badly. Think the contract IL wants for Wane is incentive based. A small rise in basic pay but huge bonuses based on results. Seems like good business practise to me. If Waney wins the grand final in his first season like madge did, then he'll be able to write his own ticket. If he doesn't come upto scratch and has to drop back to being a number 2, then nothings lost.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
Wouldn't say he blew £130,000 on Gleeson. Gleesons performance in the grand final alone was worth the transfer fee. We got Deacon for nowt and IMO he was a very shrewd signing. Think were we've come unstuck a bit this year is down to the fact that madge has decided to leave, nothing IL could have done about that, assuming he made sure that salary wasn't a factor.
The only criticism I'd have is that as soon as Madge said he was going, he should have gone straight away.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
Carmont was certainly a good signing, and a fantastic value for money one at that. It is a bit patchy otherwise, but who gets it right all the time?
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| I for one am very happy with the way Leneghan has done business since he took over. We are reigning champions ffs, what more do you people want?
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| Quote: Fames "If it is Wane and Scully, what better time and place to announce it than Friday night - just to get the Saints fans mad?!!'"
Why would it get Saints fans mad? If, as expected, Scully goes to Wigan as Wane's assistant the majority of Saints fans would wish him well. He owes us nothing.
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| Quote: Allez "Why would it get Saints fans mad? If, as expected, Scully goes to Wigan as Wane's assistant the majority of Saints fans would wish him well. He owes us nothing.'"
I agree, but there will be a few idiots who would boo him.
Strange though, Hanley was always applauded onto the field at Central Park even when he was Saints coach.
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| I'd like to see Lenegan appoint a new COO. I'm guessing at present the workload is being shared amongst himself, Simon Collinson and the other directors at the club. Perhaps the appointment of a COO would speed up and help some of the on going issues at the club. We must be the only club in SL and possibly in professional top level sport in the UK, who doesn't have a COO.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
All this bad recruitment and we still won the superleague
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| Quote: MattyB "Just because it hasn't been announced doesn't mean it hasn't been sorted and that recruitement is well underway.
We will find out when the club are ready.'"
Exactly...everyone that needs to know will know what is going to happen next year. Every target and agent will be aware of our coaching set up next year as will all our players.
The media and fans dont, that will be all.
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| IL done ok so far. Some excellent some good some indiferent signings. Next year IL must sort our right position with a class player as Joel and Marsh have simply not got the wow factor in that position. I am also worried about IL and SW insisting on using the academy players that are not good enough for Wigan at Super League level.
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| Quote: Paul Youane "Has Lenegan's recruitment been that good.
No denying that he got it right with Maguire but even that needed the agreement of the other Super League clubs as he didn't meet the necessary criteria so could have easily been rejected.
Elsewhere he recruited and EXTENDED Karl Pryce's contract - why does he no longer refer to Pryce as "a long term project"?
He claims that he does his background on players to ensure no bad eggs are signed but blows £130k on Martin Gleeson.
Tim Smith was a disaster, a big four year contract for Amos Roberts doesn't seem worthy of the trumpet blowing that Lenengan did about that "coup" at the time now does it?
Cameron Phelps was a waste of an import shirt unless you count the u20 trophy that himself and Palasena (isn't he another Lenegan contract extension to languish in the u20s at great expense) won a good return.
Deacon has missed an awful lot of game time but has been a useful player when there and no doubt helps with coaching so that could be desribed as good.
The recruitment of Hoffman, Finch and Lima were good signatures to secure but to be fair that was obviously down to Maguire's presence.
So beyond Maguire who and where is the rest of this recruitment to prove that he "knows what he is doing"?'"
So just to clarify when the signings go wrong its the Chairman's fault and when they go right its the coach who is to thank?
Not sure it works like that at any rugby league club, both at any club should and do take responsibility for the recruitment, and lets face it we won SL without "Madges good signatures", but it is an interesting philosophy. Wrong....but interesting.
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| And I wonder whose idea it was to persevere with our own home grown younger players rather than bring in 30+ year old antipodeans?
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "And I wonder whose idea it was to persevere with our own home grown younger players rather than bring in 30+ year old antipodeans?'"
If it is a successful idea it is clearly the outgoing coaches.
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