Saints have worked their socks off the last two games but I still see them as a pretty limited side. They've prayed on an injury plagued Wigan side who are hopelessly out of form and a Wire side who looked pretty drained from their cup semi final. They've made both games incredibly scrappy and in LMS they have an expert wind up merchant.

As soon as they hit one of those sides on form or Hull on top form I think they'll be found wanting.

Careful. Saints won tonight, which presumably means that Mugwump will be visiting soon.

Not only did wire look tired they lacked idea and the defence was all at sea,saints should have really punished them tonight a more clinical performance and wire would have been looking at a big scoreline,LMS was at it again why the hell he cant just concentrate on his rugby god only knows,should be interesting on the 19th August when he takes his first hit-up,"BRING BACK THE BIFF"

Saints won, but both teams were looking shaky in many ways. Warrington lacking ideas and poor defence, Saints good defence but not really a good attack.

It all seems familiar somehow.

I think one thing that was highlighted tonight was Wire have more individual game breakers who can keep them in a game when they're playing poorly then we do. I thought they were even worse then we were against Saints in many areas but in players like Sandow and Clark they have guys who can pull something out of nothing. It would have been a farce had they pinched that game.

As for LMS he isn't going to stop acting the idiot whilst he's coming out on top. He's very clever with it all. He inflames situations but always seems to stay on the right side of being penalised and let's the opposition player give the game up. As you say the 19th should be very interesting!! I just hope we don't lose focus in a battle to just get one up on LMS.

Important game for you and us tonight. If we beat Castleford then we go 3 points clear of Warrington, and maintain our 2 point gap (plus good points difference) over yourselves after you beat Wakefield. Just gives us a bit of comfort and maybe allows us to rest players before the cup final and maybe the week after too

Have Hull shot their fat early?

It's gong to be tough for Hull and Wire to keep focus in the super 8's games between now and Wembley which can only be a positive for us.

We need to take advantage of that.

I don't think so, it's just that they, and Wire, were both playing sides benefiting from a week's rest.

Cas played some great stuff in the first half; Rocky is now comfortably out-scoring Marc Sneyd! But Powell can't be happy about how they let a below-par Hull back into the game, But clearly Wire and Hull have unsurprisingly both sagged a bit, and next weekend's game should be a cracker and a real test for us.

How beneficial is an extra weeks rest? We used to see it in the old play-off format, the team that got the week off then didn't necessarily look any fresher.

Well that theory went tits up for you.

I havent watched our game back, but the difference in tackling intensity between the semi against you guys, and the Castleford game was shocking. We were trying to tackle you guys hard, Friday they were cudding, no big hits, grabbing too much. Whether it was fatigue, or mentally avoiding collision to reduce the chance of injury i dont know. Only Ellis, Yeaman, Minichiello and Pritchard (2nd spell) ran hard, and they are the oldest ones with more chance of getting a knock. Hopefully a blip

That's why it's amazing how many teams get beat the week after putting in a Big performance against Wigan.

Happened after our last semi final in 2013 against Warrington, and in 2005 after Saints. Sorry sugar, but not a Wigan thing