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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "If Prescott is fit, is there a case for having Lima and Coley as starting props, and a bench of Cross, Prescott, Mossop and McIlorum?'"
As I put above for me this would be the best option, faz was poor last week and deserved the chop, hock is not ready yet. A team with 5 props in is what we need to take it to a strong saints pack. Cross was born for this type of game.
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| cross and hock shouldnt be newhere near this one,
cross too up and down, hasnt really got going yet for me, grandet hes nto played much same as hock, just think they a few weeks from being in for this,
Faz was poor at times but still make 40 odd tackles and has helped up beat these guys on many previous occasions.
faz has to be in, we need someone to tackle, and tackle and then pop up with a great run,and thats faz's game.
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| Faz and Hock to miss out for me, IF prescott is fully fit and raring to go
Hock needs more game time and Faz has had a crapper of late unfortunatley and cannot risk this tomorrow
Nerves getting to me now but still confident in a squad and our mentality
ITS OURS THIS YEAR, IN MADGE WE TRUST
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "That would probably mean Mossop playing in the back row as it's asking a lot of Hansen, Hoffman and Lockers to play 80 minutes at what is probably high intensity rugby. Is it wise to move him there when he's been one of, if not the best prop in the team? I suppose Madge could also use Prescott or McIlorum as a loose forward and move O'Loughlin out wide in that situation should he want to rotate the back row but it doesn't seem sensible in my opinion.'"
That was my thought, to use Mossop as a back row forward for this game. Hock is still not up to pace and Farrell, although he made forty tackles last week gets driven back in the tackle (it was the reason Maguire dropped him initially).
A big pack could help us tomorrow, and Mossop is pretty quick for a big man.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "That was my thought, to use Mossop as a back row forward for this game. Hock is still not up to pace and Farrell, although he made forty tackles last week gets driven back in the tackle (it was the reason Maguire dropped him initially).
A big pack could help us tomorrow, and Mossop is pretty quick for a big man.'"
I would have no concern using Mossop in the back row he has excellent lateral mobility in the defensive line that a traditional Prop is sometimes exposed by when playing in the second row.
Jamie Peacock is an example of how someone can get exposed as a weakness in defence when used in the second row, but I do not think that Mossop with his athleticism will be an issue used in this role.
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| Quote: jonh "I would have no concern using Mossop in the back row he has excellent lateral mobility in the defensive line that a traditional Prop is sometimes exposed by when playing in the second row.
Jamie Peacock is an example of how someone can get exposed as a weakness in defence when used in the second row, but I do not think that Mossop with his athleticism will be an issue used in this role.'"
That's not all that's needed though when defending further out, especially if he's defending down the right hand side. Decision making and communication are just as important and that's where he might not be quite so effective. That said, he'd probably be far better defensively than Hock and probably Farrell too judging by his recent performances.
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| Quote: Cherry.Pie "That's not all that's needed though when defending further out, especially if he's defending down the right hand side. Decision making and communication are just as important and that's where he might not be quite so effective. That said, he'd probably be far better defensively than Hock and probably Farrell too judging by his recent performances.'"
Given he has played second row most of his career to date i would not have any concerns in relation to this.
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| Quote: jonh "Given he has played second row most of his career to date i would not have any concerns in relation to this.'"
He was never the strongest defender though, and he hasn't played second row at all this year. He might not be au fait with the decision making of the players around him.
I do agree that he'd probably be a better option than either Hock or Farrell. It's just a question of whether Coley (getting on a bit), Prescott (an injury worry) and Cross (far from convincing and a possible liability) would be a good 3 to have at prop.
Cross vs Hock is the biggest decision to make in my opinion. Both don't look up to speed but of the two Hock has at least had a game where he looked effective, albeit against a poor side.
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| Quote: St pete "I was txt saints team by saints player before, weve had a late drop out thru injury which I'm sure will make you guys a little more confident than you already are.'"
If it's Kyle Eastmond then that is really bad news... for Wigan. I was looking forward to him being anonymous in attack and getting torn to pieces out wide and/or close to the line. Shame.
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| Quote: cadoo "If it's Kyle Eastmond then that is really bad news... for Wigan. I was looking forward to him being anonymous in attack and getting torn to pieces out wide and/or close to the line. Shame.'"
Our injury curse against you lot strikes again. At least this time we have two halfbacks that can play rugby are fit.
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| Quote: St pete "Our injury curse against you lot strikes again. At least this time we have two halfbacks that can play rugby are fit.'"
Roby On another note, hope whoever it is feels completely fine and ready to go by Sunday!
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| Looks to be Eastmond...
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| Hock and either Preccy or Faz to miss out for me:
Sam
Josh
Joel
George
Pat
Finch
Deacon
Coley
Tommy
Lima
Hansen
Hoff
Lockers
Micky Mac
Mossop
Preccy/Faz
Cross
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| no excuses. you have a full team out bar one and fred perry. should be a cracker - can't wait till saturday afternoon.
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