Nonsense.

Joel Monaghan
Stefan Ratchford
kallum Watkins
Jonny Lomax
Tom Lineham
Ben Crooks
Tom Briscoe

are all good players that would probably get into your side next year without Tomkins and Richards.

Reply to Yellow Giraffe:

I will give you Joel Monaghan he is international class player but none of the others are. They could be in 2-3 years but Crooks and Lineham and Lomax are not at the standard of Sam, Ryan Hall and Josh Charnley at this moment in time. Whilst what you view as international class differs greatly from mine.

Whilst they might get into the team without Pat and Sam. Its a really indictment on the quality in SL that an 30+ winger who has lost a yard of pace is still better than almost all the wingers in SL.

Read my post again Yellow Giraffe i do say International Class. And that Ryan Hall, Josh and Sam that are good. That was meant to be they are the only international class backs in SL. Joel Monaghan is but the others are not good enough though given time and if they go to a very good side they could.

But none of those are in the caliber of the 3 i mentioned and thats not a very good position for SL or England to be in.

Sometimes you have to pay top dollar for "potential" take risks, Ben crooks on the same side as charley = cricket score. Throw some money at saints for lomax while we are at it , worked alright for gary Connolly

I don't need to read your post again. I read the bit about being international class. And then I read the bit where you said only those 3 were any good.

Tom Briscoe's of a similar skill level to Charnley IMO

From what i have seen of Briscoe he is the best alternative to Pat available this season and he is i think OOC this season. The others on the list by YG are potentially good players and we have enough potentially good players we need genuine international class players to replace Pat or Sam.

Players like Lomax etc is a risk 1 good half a season does not make a player. You know how poor SL is when teams like Wigan will get a big transfer fee for Sam and there is no other player of that quality or even close to it for you to spend it on. OK we have so many youngsters of real potential we might get away with replacement of Pat but Tierney is not ready and Ryan Hampshire i would like to see play more needs more time at 6. Hampshire is the next superstar in SL the best talent i have seen in a while. But as most players on the list by YG he is potentially international class. We need quality next season not in 2-3 years time.

We'll see if Briscoe is serious about his career later today. If he's signed for Salford its for nothing other then pure cash. If he hasn't and is going to Wigan or more likely Leeds then he obviously has ambition to compete at the top end of the table and has put winning things before money.

We shall see.

Tom Briscoe would be a top signing but the lack of an out and out goal kicker is a problem at the minute. Yes Smith and Charnley can both kick to a reasonable degree but neither are Pat Richards.

We obviously have Burgess and Manfredi to step in, but with the possibility of Josh being next to go to the NRL, I think that Owens from Widnes would be worth a punt. Then again, I'd prefer us to sign a World Class centre if we're signing anyone.

I'd be more than happy with any 2 of the 7 players YG mentioned.

I don't know if I agree with this, I feel players, apart from the money, might see the potential in Salford, a team going places, with the right signings they could, in a year or two, be real contenders.

Big rumour, strong source claims we've signed Brett Hodgson. He'll be our fullback and goal kicker for next season.

Bit arrogant that - Salford could easily find themselves challenging for trophies in the next few years, in the same way Wire have been transformed with Moran's cash.

They need a decent coach though.

Everyone said that about City and Chelsea at first and now people see that as more chance of trophies than Arsenal or Liverpool which would have seemed incredible 10 years ago.