Anybody who voted for Brexit. Mainly over 70's who shouldn't have had a vote (that includes me). It should have been left to the people who it will affect most.

And what qualifications do you have to endorse that view?
In what way has it put race relations back?

Maybe it's just highlighted how much further we needed to go and hadnt realised it.
Because make no doubt about it, over the last 3/4 years (and yes you can draw your parallels from those timelines if you wish) the people that still had a long way to go to understand why it's important have suddenly been emboldened, found a voice, and they're using it to push back.
"I'm sick of being politically correct"
"I'm not racist but"
"They (Those pesky minorities) just wont shut up and keep banging on about stuff, theyve never had it so good!"
This bloody countries fone to the dogs because of those bloody foreigners.
How does that help me? How does it make my life better? Whys noone listening to my worries and concerns

Well in response to the last one, IMO theyve backed the wrong horse.
"Get Brexit done" was never going to provide the answers the "Average working man" was looking for.
Stop as many Dhingys as you like, put up walls to your hearts content, blame the immigrants, the EU for all your worries and concerns and fears. It won't help them

Unfortunately once this Utopia has been achieved, well still be in the same position we are now, fighting injustices and systemic problems including class/education and poverty divides, and the very people who they backed to solve their problems are the ones who want to maintain the status quo and arent interested in solving the Real reasons for those feelings.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/08/1 ... ew-bottle/ An interesting perspective on this whole issue if you have the time.

https://www.spiked-online.com/2020/08/1 ... ew-bottle/ An interesting perspective on this whole issue if you have the time.

we never got a vote to join so maybe your right

I've been a member of this forum since 2005/6, I'll be around for a bit longer yet Noob.

That all depends what you are saying about those people

Anytime we deal with other perspectives we simplify and whenever we post something we also simplify. The important thing, as I see it, is that you have read the article and evaluated it through the lens of your own personal knowledge and understanding which may be much more valid than mine.
I posted this from Spiked Magazine even though they have probably a magority of content that I disagree with because the present combatants seem incapable of nuanced thinking. We seem to scream fascist at anyone who holds any different views to us and which is deeply incompatable with our political system where parties need a wide base, otherwise we should have a proportional representation system. Just before the last election two political parties deselected candidates because they held what in my day would have been considered worthwhile and middle of the road socio-religious beliefs.
I was brought up in the day when to pass exams you had to be able to summarize at least two sides to an argument and to make a value judgement based upon your own views. We have moved on from that to a binary response. In Rugby Union I believe that one player of colour (please do not crucify me if I have used the wrong term) decided to stand because of footage of white BLM protesters attacking a largely black church and burning bibles. I can understand why he did not kneel and the valid reasons behind it. Sadly the idea that somebody else may have a valid viewpoint all too often goes out of the window.

You insult people a lot for someone who complains when they get insulted.

Who said it was an insult?