Sam considering Souths aswell as Union within the next few years.

Sams not good enough for Union....tell me a position he could play?

Joels a natural....hes a natural RU centre..........now if only we had kept him in the 2nd row...i doubt RU would have noticed the potential

and as for Sam's car he has a red Audi A5 and is pally with a guy who works with Infinity. He has had a convertable and a jeep style motor of them to drive around. Not jealous honest.

Good.

Give me the choice of Souths now or union in a couple of years and I'd sadly have to say thanks and good luck in Oz.

I'd help him pack his bags if it meant he was staying clear of that pathetic, talentless, middle class borefest.

Whilst I obviously prefer league, it would be wrong to say that RU is a "middle class" game.

Ask Chris Ashton about the demographic of an average Northampton supporter, or go to Gloucester and look around the ground.

Sadly for RL, RU is the "accepted" form of rugby in the majority of the country. Even non Rugby fans will watch an international (and make a social occassion out of it).

The advertising follows. This is the cornerstone of it's popularity. It is not the product on the pitch.

I'm sure the RFL would act if they had the money, but they don't. Perhaps if all the internationals this coming autumn were to be sellouts that would put money in the RFL coffers, which they could use to hold on to players like Joel Tomkins. The reality is though that the games won't be sold out, and that = more Rugby League players going to union. The reality is as well that some Rugby League fans will use pathetic excuses not to attend the internationals. Also look at the pathetic crowds some the play off games got, which in turn means that the clubs have less money to retain their best players with.
If fans want their clubs to hang on to their best players more fans need to be coming through the gates at club and international level its as simple as that, and to stop finding pathetic excuses NOT to attened games.

What position will Joel Tomkins play in RU?

He's only a half-decent RL centre and hasn't got a chance of playing in the forwards. He make his money from this initial contract then return to rugby league.

Centre in Union is completely different. Inside centre is generally a ball playing centre, Andy Farrell ended up playing there but didn't really have the speed. Outside centre would be where Joel would end up. This is were Tindall, Nonu, Tuilangi.... Play. Big, strong, fast (the exception being Tindall). He's perfect for that role really.

Well Done Mr. Leneghan by needlessly delaying the appointment of Shaun Wane, you have ensured that the press conference will not be about the new coach, but all the questions will be about the Tomkins brothers

Now that won't go down well on here - but it is true.

IL is supposed to be able to predict the future now is he? Pathetic.

The saddest thing of all is that you look at almost all the most talented young players in RL and feels like its a matter of when not if they will jump ship to RU or NRL but when you look at how short a rugby career is you have to make the most you can while you have the chance. If the figures being quoted are accurate then no-one could blame them imo.

This.

I wouldn't let Nigel Wood run a bath.