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| Quote: DaveO "So forgive me for the assumption you were comparing the appointment of Wane to that of McQuire.'"
You're forgiven.
Quote: DaveO "McGuire coaches when Bellamy is away on SoO duty? SoO is midweek so Bellamy is back for the weekend NRL game.'"
I take it by not responding to this particular point you realise you were wrong in saying that McGuire has coached the first team.
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| Quote: Catalancs "You're forgiven.
I take it by not responding to this particular point you realise you were wrong in saying that McGuire has coached the first team.'"
Do you enjoy making pointless points? MCquire coaches the team in Bellemy's absence. If you want to be pedantic, which you clearly do, I am right and you are wrong.
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| A visa/work permit wouldn't be a problem according to what i read for Mcguire because aslong as Wigan could prove for a nailed on fact that he was Melbournes sole 'number 2' he'd be eligible for one.
Due to him coaching Melbourne in Bellamys absences that wouldn't be a problem.
Maybe we've just decided to go with an unproven guy that knows the club over one that doesn't which sounds sensible when put like that.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "A visa/work permit wouldn't be a problem according to what i read for Mcguire because aslong as Wigan could prove for a nailed on fact that he was Melbournes sole 'number 2' he'd be eligible for one.
Due to him coaching Melbourne in Bellamys absences that wouldn't be a problem.
Maybe we've just decided to go with an unproven guy that knows the club over one that doesn't which sounds sensible when put like that.'"
So if there are no problems with McGuire and we apparently haven't spoken to him for a while you'd have to think that we've gone for Shaun.
Looking at it positively the last point you make is a good one.
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| Quote: Catalancs "So if there are no problems with McGuire and we apparently haven't spoken to him for a while you'd have to think that we've gone for Shaun.
Looking at it positively the last point you make is a good one.'"
I think Lenagan probably just feels going for a local guy and a passionate Wiganer will buy a little more patience from the Wigan fans(and possibly that he's a touch cheaper says the cinic in me).
Imagine us bringing this McGuire bloke in and we have a similar start to this year where we look uninterested and only have about 2 or 3 wins on the board from 10 games.............The pressure on McGuire would be huge and plenty of fans would be calling for his head already. On the other hand if Wane had a start like that i just feel the Wigan public would be willing to back him a little more especially if he'd been blooding a couple of youngsters during that period.
The more i think about it the more i believe it's the clever move.
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I think Lenagan probably just feels going for a local guy and a passionate Wiganer will buy a little more patience from the Wigan fans(and possibly that he's a touch cheaper says the cinic in me).
Imagine us bringing this McGuire bloke in and we have a similar start to this year where we look uninterested and only have about 2 or 3 wins on the board from 10 games.............The pressure on McGuire would be huge and plenty of fans would be calling for his head already.'"
That's similar to what happened to Kevin Walters at Catalans this year.
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| With the SC dictating what we can spend on players, its much more important to get the coaching side right, as this is an area where a massive impact to the team can be made.
IL will know this, and i will be amazed if the appointment of a new coach is down to a financial decision, (obviously if any coach is demading stupid money, then this will have an effect).
We should be aiming for the best coaching staff we can get, not a compromise or a old boys club that we have now.
I could care less where the coach, conditioner, water boy comes from as long as he/she/they are the best person for the job. If that is Wane, then good as being a Wigan lad, he will be given a bit more leeway by the complainers, who no matter what will find fault. However if it is not Wane, perhaps he should be made assitant so next time he will be ready to take over if that is what the club wants.
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| If its Wane, who will be his assistant, will Forshaw still be in charge?
If we are merely putting Wane into position, I dont see how we can expect a revolution.
Perhaps John Monie could be his assistant
I will back Wane if he gets it, but I would be disapointed.
With no signings, the pressure is no him from the start.
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| Quote: Sharpy_4a "With the SC dictating what we can spend on players, its much more important to get the coaching side right, as this is an area where a massive impact to the team can be made.
IL will know this, and i will be amazed if the appointment of a new coach is down to a financial decision, (obviously if any coach is demading stupid money, then this will have an effect).'"
IL has (rightly or wrongly) got a reputation as being a bit tight with purse strings so I would not be surprised but I'd be disappointed.
Quote: Sharpy_4a "We should be aiming for the best coaching staff we can get, not a compromise or a old boys club that we have now'"
I agree, all the clubs above us in the league have good coaches and the CC cup winners have one as well.
Quote: Sharpy_4a "I could care less where the coach, conditioner, water boy comes from as long as he/she/they are the best person for the job. If that is Wane, then good as being a Wigan lad, he will be given a bit more leeway by the complainers, who no matter what will find fault. However if it is not Wane, perhaps he should be made assitant so next time he will be ready to take over if that is what the club wants.'"
That would be ideal.
Dave
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| Quote: NickyKiss "I think Lenagan probably just feels going for a local guy and a passionate Wiganer will buy a little more patience from the Wigan fans(and possibly that he's a touch cheaper says the cinic in me).
Imagine us bringing this McGuire bloke in and we have a similar start to this year where we look uninterested and only have about 2 or 3 wins on the board from 10 games.............The pressure on McGuire would be huge and plenty of fans would be calling for his head already. On the other hand if Wane had a start like that i just feel the Wigan public would be willing to back him a little more especially if he'd been blooding a couple of youngsters during that period.'"
I think it will go one of two ways regardless of who the new coach is.
One scenario is if we have another start like we have had the last three years the pressure will be on. Nobby will have lost his job mainly for that reason IMO so the new coach will be being employed to rectify this problem. Fail to do so and the pressure will be on no matter who it is.
The other scenario is they get some leeway and manage to keep the fans on-side by dong things differently despite early results. In other words its not just about results but if the new coach does things like drop out of form players he will get the backing of the fans.
I think the latter is the more likely so I think whoever it is has a seasons grace before people want to see genuine improvement.
If the new coach carries on where Nobby leaves off he will have about five games as his grace period because people want change.
2007 was a poor season for us after the way we finished 2006 but I think very few if any were calling for Nobby's head back then. It was IMO consdered a blip and most fans thought 2008 would se some improvement.
So for me whoever gets the job they will get a season to put in place their changes and the second season is where the fans will start to expect tangible improvement.
Dave
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| Wigan coach Brian Noble has revealed that young forward Mark Flanagan will make his farewell appearance at the DW Stadium on Sunday but declined to confirm it will be his last home game too.
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| Has a lot of potential does Flanagan. I hope he doesn't screw it up in Aus and I hope we see him back here in the future.
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| Flanagan may return but that will depend on his domestic decisions as well as Rugby.
No doubt he'll play in the reserves at Wests to see how he goes. He will do well if he makes the first team within his first season with them.
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| Quote: Jimmy Birts Lives On "If Wane takes charge I anticipate a rip n' tear flying start to the new season. Not the usual lethargic half a.rsed approach that effectively rules out all chances of a top 4 finish before the half way point of the season . We'll come flying out the blocks ala Mike Gregory. Might be what's needed. '"
selective memories here, Wigan didn't really come flying out the blocks the season Mike Gregory was in charge.....lost at Bradford first game when Vainikolo got 5 tries, then got beat at Leeds and Huddersfield, I think it was one win from the first five.
Wigan were a lot better in those days and Gregory did have Wigan in 2 finals during his brief spell in charge but the slow starts were a factor of those days as well....
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