We’ve also shown we can pull out dross on the big occasion too. There’s only a small amount of hope left for this season but certainly no expectation. No one coming off that ground tonight can possibly think we have a realistic chance of winning the whole thing. Fast forward to the future and we have a semi final where it’s chucking it down and we blow it because that’s what this team is built for unfortunately.

Our game management from the stands was very poor. Both sides were awful as was the officiating. One to forget.

Asking Dupree to play 30+ minutes in the first half was a big mistake, when he returned in the second half he was still goosed.

If French is a 6 then we have major problems. The next time he dummies and doesn’t take on the line I would drop him, King was getting some hospital passes. Why our coaches continue to put Smith at first receiver all the time and run the same plays is beyond me. We were lucky to get away with that tonight against a very average Hull side.

Asking Dupree to play 30+ minutes in the first half was a big mistake, when he returned in the second half he was still goosed.

If French is a 6 then we have major problems. The next time he dummies and doesn’t take on the line I would drop him, King was getting some hospital passes. Why our coaches continue to put Smith at first receiver all the time and run the same plays is beyond me. We were lucky to get away with that tonight against a very average Hull side. Did Faz fail his HIA? He looks a shadow of his former self.

Few names we don't normally see after a win so that's one thing.

Not sure what game the ref and West Stand TJ were watching. Hope it was better than this one.

Our game management is awful.

2 points won, move on.

Both sides completions rates were horrendous, yet another home game ruined by awful weather.

Our effort to win was there massively but our skill to execute was so poor, the amount of chances we had to win the game but didn’t take.

Field got a 70m break to get us under the sticks in the first half of GP and somehow against 12 we couldn’t score.

Another night of growing pains for Harry Smith, I’m a huge fan but his missed goal kicks and bad drop goal set ups were worrying.

Miski was our best player again.

King and Wardle are very good, disappointed to lose King next year (don’t think Keighran has anywhere near the same work rate).

KPP is better at prop than backrow. Plays much more direct and just runs straight and hard. Shame we’ve not got another good option for second row (Shorrocks not good enough to start in a grand final winning team IMO).

Nsemba very good, I’d been worried about him defensively but he put himself about. He solves the above problem as he comes on and KPP can go to prop.

French had a stinker and literally didn’t sprint with the ball once. We need to give him more freedom and switch him to fullback for a few sets when we have the ball.

2 points but not looking good.

Thought Byrne was good after his weeks off. Ran the ball in hard and was knocking people over.

He needs to be massive for us going forward.

Very poor game. Hull wanted a slow game and boy, did they get it! A mixture of dropped ball, terrible conditions and an incompetent ref contributed to a dire spectacle.

It's not the first time this that we've got sucked into this type of game. Last years play off semi defeat, KR semi, Catalans at home, Catalans at Magic and last night were all unbelievably stop start. When we go set for set with teams and keep the ball in play, we are at our best. Peet often speaks about getting fatigue into the game and he's spot on IMO.

Hopefully we learn soon, as you can just feel a similar night will be round the corner in the play offs.

Maybe just maybe peet isn't the man to take us to that next level of being a champion side.
Maybe and hopefully I'm wrong but can't be doing with another repeat of this season next year

It's been happening for a couple of years so clearly it's a deliberate tactic that we don't take the dull but safe option and play the percentages. We don't drive the ball into the corner for the opposition to try to run the ball out from right on their own line, or try to force repeat sets. I know it's not very exciting but they used to call it wet weather rugby for a reason. We try to score on pretty much every set which is a tactic some teams adopt but I've really got to question whether it actually works for us.

How many matches have we watched this year where the team tries to overplay at the wrong time or tries too hard to make things happen on the last tackle and comes up with an error or a play that allows the opposition to recover the ball and get out of danger?

Teams that can grind their opponents down and then be clinical with attacks at the right time tend to do well in the playoffs but we don't seem to want to play the percentages. I don't see how we'll trouble any top team playing like we did last night.

I don't think it's players going rogue or not following instructions - they've played like this most of the year and Matt Peet seems perfectly happy with it, so this is obviously coached to some extent but I'm really not sure it's getting the best out of the team. I've seen Harry Smith play the dullest, most predictable, no frills but effective rugby in the past. It's not like it's something he can't do so clearly he's being instructed not to and I find it baffling. He's not gone backwards in terms of game management we just don't seem interested in it.

It was frustrating because I thought we were the better team and made such a meal of it. Rather than having a bit of patience and trying to wear Hull down it was throw the ball wide as soon as possible and score on every play. We had some good territory and yet Hull didn't suffer as a result and their forwards weren't made to work hard enough because we just let them off the hook.

It was just a dire game from start to finish and I don't know which god we angered for us to have to sit through golden point extra time after that turgid mess.

Maybe I’m just getting more chilled or maybe it’s because I’ve got far more important things to worry about in life.

Yeah, it was a poor performance but it still resulted in a win. By a long way we are not favourites for anything but on our day I still think we can beat anyone. The effort and commitment was there & we certainly won’t win anything without that.

The Smith at first receiver is one I have mentioned a few times on here - it puts so much pressure on him to organise/start everything that it effects his game and means he cannot be anywhere near as creative and often gets hammered. The lack of a proper 6 kills us sometimes and this is one area where it does - a decent 6 could go in at first receiver and take some of the pressure off Smith. The French at 6 is ok in open games but in tight games with little space his lack of knowing how to play 6 is obvious and causes as many issues as it solves.