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Quote: The_Enforcer "At no point did i say 'WE' should let Salford have a go. You inserted the 'WE' on purpose to make it sound like i said something i didnt.

I said, 'let Salford have a go' meaning that as a fan and in the interest of the game i would like to see them have a go with no pressure on them and nothing to lose.'"


Who else is going to give Salford a go other than us? Thus ‘we’ let Salford have a go, thus ‘we’ concede the game. We can’t give Salford a go without conceding the game. It’s an easy concept to understand.

You made a suggestion and ever since have tried to backpeddle on what you meant.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "At no point did i say 'WE' should let Salford have a go. You inserted the 'WE' on purpose to make it sound like i said something i didnt.

I said, 'let Salford have a go' meaning that as a fan and in the interest of the game i would like to see them have a go with no pressure on them and nothing to lose.'"


No, for clarification what you said was Just let Salford have a shot at Saints. At least they have a set of forwards that will actually get stuck in and not stand around looking shell shocked as the backs try to make metres. 

Last thing we need is to allow Saints some more gloating to add to the 75-0. I cant think of anything worse than a Grand Final drubbing to Saints. I was there when Bradford took us apart in the Grand Final and its a horrible feeling.


Now whichever you look at it I find it unimaginable that anyone could think anything other than you dont want Wigan to get through as we'll get mullered and I dont want to see that.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "At no point did i say 'WE' should let Salford have a go. You inserted the 'WE' on purpose to make it sound like i said something i didnt.

I said, 'let Salford have a go' meaning that as a fan and in the interest of the game i would like to see them have a go with no pressure on them and nothing to lose.'"


You talk utter crap, the only way ‘Salford can have a go’ at Saints is if they beat us, and you saying you want Salford to play Saints means you want them to beat us, how hard is that to comprehend?

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Quote: KingRoss11 "You talk utter crap, the only way ‘Salford can have a go’ at Saints is if they beat us, and you saying you want Salford to play Saints means you want them to beat us, how hard is that to comprehend?'"


The enforcer must be a troll surely?

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saint mully wrote: It was disappointing to see the numbers leaving after the Lee Smith try when I was coming back in from the toilets, I could hardly get back in scully = god wrote: We have the worst fans in the league. FACT. What we need is the passion Wigan fans have.:3064.gif



Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Contrary to Lam dropping Greenwood I think he needs game time. I see a player who’s suffered head knocks and perhaps has had a loss of confidence. Once he regains himself he’ll be back to the strong running back rower we signed.
I’d put him back on the left. His combination on the left edge last season was one of the reason our attack was so deadly.'"


I don't think Greenwood is good enough for this Wigan team, very big forward but never ever runs his weight and his injuries are a worry. I think we missed a trick with Josh Jones, and most certainly last year should of tried more with Matt Whitley. Greenwood as well I imagine will be on decent sized contract. I remember Waney commenting on about him last year that he's not your typical Wigan style forward, absolutely correct on that one.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "I don't think Greenwood is good enough for this Wigan team, very big forward but never ever runs his weight and his injuries are a worry. I think we missed a trick with Josh Jones, and most certainly last year should of tried more with Matt Whitley. Greenwood as well I imagine will be on decent sized contract. I remember Waney commenting on about him last year that he's not your typical Wigan style forward, absolutely correct on that one.'"


Totally disagree regarding Greenwood. On his day he’s up there with the best SR in super league, a real handful to tackle due to his size and running style. He’s skilled with a good offload and pass.

Cast you’re mind back to when we demolished Saints at the end of last season, or any game in the playoffs. He was fantastic. Even when younger at Saints he was quality.

What we’re seeing now is a player who’s low and confidence and probably going through a mental battle. He’s had a number of head knocks and needs supporting to regain confidence, once he does he’ll be up there with the best of the once again.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Totally disagree regarding Greenwood. On his day he’s up there with the best SR in super league, a real handful to tackle due to his size and running style. He’s skilled with a good offload and pass.

Cast you’re mind back to when we demolished Saints at the end of last season, or any game in the playoffs. He was fantastic. Even when younger at Saints he was quality.

What we’re seeing now is a player who’s low and confidence and probably going through a mental battle. He’s had a number of head knocks and needs supporting to regain confidence, once he does he’ll be up there with the best of the once again.'"


May well have been a mutual agreement for him to take a backseat for the rest of the year. Hopefully in the offseason he can reset and be back to his best next year.

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Quote: Mini Rogue "I don't think Greenwood is good enough for this Wigan team, very big forward but never ever runs his weight and his injuries are a worry. I think we missed a trick with Josh Jones, and most certainly last year should of tried more with Matt Whitley. Greenwood as well I imagine will be on decent sized contract. I remember Waney commenting on about him last year that he's not your typical Wigan style forward, absolutely correct on that one.'"


I totally agree with the above.

Even when firing on all cylinders I have never been convinced by him.

Yes he has looked impressive at times but generally he has flattered to deceive.

I think there are 2 key issues with him, and unless something changes very quickly in relation to both these then I fear he will go down as a lad who had bags of potential but couldn’t achieve it.

First one is obviously his body, be it bad luck or not he is picking up too many injuries. He seems to go down clutching something after every drive.

More crucially and I feel it is related to the first issue is his mental strength. I doubt his work ethic or his mental toughness.

It’s interesting a good friend of mine who had a good career in the second row said to me when we signed him how he only really tended to appear in the attacking half of the field looking for the ball.

He noted when Saints were looking for someone to take it off their line he was never really willing to put his hand up.

Not sure when his contract runs out but I think next year will be make or break for him at Wigan. He needs more time on the pitch and a bigger influence over a game.

I also agree Josh Jones would have been a fantastic signing he has all the attributes that we could use to compliment what we have but I assume given our recruitment it simply wasn’t financially viable.

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Quote: jonh "I don't think Greenwood is good enough for this Wigan team, very big forward but never ever runs his weight and his injuries are a worry. I think we missed a trick with Josh Jones, and most certainly last year should of tried more with Matt Whitley. Greenwood as well I imagine will be on decent sized contract. I remember Waney commenting on about him last year that he's not your typical Wigan style forward, absolutely correct on that one.'"


I totally agree with the above.

Even when firing on all cylinders I have never been convinced by him.

Yes he has looked impressive at times but generally he has flattered to deceive.

I think there are 2 key issues with him, and unless something changes very quickly in relation to both these then I fear he will go down as a lad who had bags of potential but couldn’t achieve it.

First one is obviously his body, be it bad luck or not he is picking up too many injuries. He seems to go down clutching something after every drive.

More crucially and I feel it is related to the first issue is his mental strength. I doubt his work ethic or his mental toughness.

It’s interesting a good friend of mine who had a good career in the second row said to me when we signed him how he only really tended to appear in the attacking half of the field looking for the ball.

He noted when Saints were looking for someone to take it off their line he was never really willing to put his hand up.

Not sure when his contract runs out but I think next year will be make or break for him at Wigan. He needs more time on the pitch and a bigger influence over a game.

I also agree Josh Jones would have been a fantastic signing he has all the attributes that we could use to compliment what we have but I assume given our recruitment it simply wasn’t financially viable.'"


The RL media at the time said we did make him an offer but Hull threw the vault at him. Doubt we'd have signed Burgess as well as Jones.

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Quote: Jukesays "No, for clarification what you said was Just let Salford have a shot at Saints. At least they have a set of forwards that will actually get stuck in and not stand around looking shell shocked as the backs try to make metres. 

Last thing we need is to allow Saints some more gloating to add to the 75-0. I cant think of anything worse than a Grand Final drubbing to Saints. I was there when Bradford took us apart in the Grand Final and its a horrible feeling.


Now whichever you look at it I find it unimaginable that anyone could think anything other than you dont want Wigan to get through as we'll get mullered and I dont want to see that.'"


You seem to have an uncanny knack of following me around and biting at my heels like a little nipper. I dont want us to get through you're right. At last, you actually get it. Id rather Salford have a go but i did not suggest we should purposely lose the game. I would prefer Salford beat us legit and rightly have a go at Saints rather than us with this flimsy set of forwards. I do not wish to be gloated at by Saints fans when they beat us in a final by a cricket score and i actually think Salford have the ability to do a Warrington on Saints.

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Quote: Darwen Warrior "If you were locked in a gym on your own, you’d start an argument with yourself and then deny it.


I didnt start any argument. Others did by claiming i said something that i didnt.

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Quote: 100% Warrior "Who else is going to give Salford a go other than us? '"


This just shows how ignorant you are. The fact that you think we would have to throw the game for Salford to have a go at Saints speaks volumes. Salford could give themselves a go by beating us fair and square. Then they would have a go at Saints. They have just as much chance as we do of winning on Friday.

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Quote: KingRoss11 "You talk utter crap, the only way ‘Salford can have a go’ at Saints is if they beat us, and you saying you want Salford to play Saints means you want them to beat us, how hard is that to comprehend?'"


I dont see why you are attacking me. I do want Salford to beat us and put us out of our misery as i think they stand a good chance of upsetting Saints and i think we would get mullered which i do not wish to see at the hands of Saints. This does not mean that i suggested we throw the game.

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Quote: dh13 "The enforcer must be a troll surely?'"


Same old tired play book. If somebody has a thought that isnt mainstream, attack them as trolls.

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Quote: The_Enforcer "Same old tired play book. If somebody has a thought that isnt mainstream, attack them as trolls.'"

Did you go to Saints last Friday?
Will you be at the DW on Friday?
Will you be at Old Trafford if we beat Salford?

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