The club were surely in a cleft stick there. Suppose we hadn't gone him after NZW, and he'd ended up at Leeds or Warrington? Wigan fans would have been in meltdown, here and elsewhere, calling for IL and SW's heads...

Possible move to half back I think his lack of pace will make it harder for him to play at full back and be able to have the speed to support breaks like he used to

Could he create space and a gap in the defensive line to exploit? Can his rugby knowledge compensate for his lack of pace.

I don't think his mind is off the game and can imagine he is there a lot with the team and behind the scenes doing a lot of work on coming back stronger. Injuries and luck can be cruel I don't think he should be a shoe in but pushing in training to win his place back or to cover injuries. Hopefully he will be given the proper rehab and physio and most importantly time to heal and regain confidance that he is 100% himsf when playing with an injury or fear of a reoccurrence it can affect performances if it means he does not play a key role this season and can remain injury free for the start of next his wage could well be worth the wait !! It's a gamble. It a relatively safe one his wages will be accounted for the duration of his contract the gamble is more do you release him and he returns looking like the player you had hoped you re signed!!

Oh I agree with you,though i dont agree with this constant resigning of players im old school you leave,you you stay left but if that knee was injured when he left NZW why on earth did Wigan go through with the signing.if only to protect themselves from a huge wage bill for an injured player,he could have been put on retainer surely till he was back to full fitness,allowing him the time he clearly needed.

Still all if's and but's what happened happened.

Well, I'm glad we have Joe Burgess back, and Tommy too. Tommy, at least, I think has come back a better player than when he left. People have criticised his kicking game; well, he's no Cooper Cronk, but I don't see that his kicking out of hand is any worse than Matty Smith, and by taking it to the line, which he constantly does, he offers us far more options in attack in my book.

Some absolute being posted on this thread.

I think a lot of people will end up with egg on their faces over this. Hope Sam isn't reading this thread, I can only imagine how frustrating it must be sat injured with fans questioning your commitment.

I think it's mostly borne out of frustration than anything else, I think we were all hoping to get the Sam of 2012 back. He's a different player now but still an excellent one (he was never 'just' a speed demon) and he'll be a great asset when he's fit.

I think the major issue is obviously the high wage he commands and having a further 2 years left on his contract after this one. Will Wigan be happy to continue to have such an investment that must be currently seen as a risk?

Wigan made the decision to bring Sam back, we are yet to see him 100% fit which will be a frustration but I have no doubts that we will be a better side with Sam in it. I would be treating him with kid gloves, making sure he doesnt come back too soon and if that happens I can see him finishing the year strong and we will be looking at retaining him rather than releasing him

I had a post deleted because i stated a FACT, a FACT which i saw with my own eyes but others are allowed to post stuff saying he is committed etc based on........... nothing. I know differently and am also done with the double standards of this board. MODS please delete my account. The anti-don't speak ill of Wigan brigade jump down your throat. I don't post rumour. Anything i have ever said regarding players is the truth. Sam, Mossop, Crosby etc etc. If they don't want it on messageboards then they shouldn't be d!!ck heads when they aren't on the pitch!

Correct.

The one thing you could never question about Sam Tomkins is his commitment to the cause. He's probably the most competative player I've ever seen and has a desire to win which is unrivalled.

I'm confident that for us frustrated as we all are, he'll be feeling a hundred times worse.

He'll be back.

Christ there's not half some rubbish being spouted about on here about Sam.

He's injured. Simple as that, I wish people would stop trying to make him Wigans Daniel Sturridge accusing him of not "wanting it". And all this talk of his wage, how is that his fault? Wigan offered him that, would do you take it if you were offered a wedge? Course you would!

Injuries happen. Part and parcel of sport and life. To hold it against him is beggars belief.

I think the people annoyed about Sam aren't annoyed specificly at him, more annoyed that player taking up a valuable spot on the cap, seems never fit enough to play and when he did looked knackered, just to say I will never question Sam's commitment, I agree he is one of the most committed players I've ever seen st Wigan, but this is is an honest question now and I hope there is some good answers.

Why pay a player high wages, a lot which which will be coming out of Lenagans pocket I imagine, when he is constantly injured and performs average when he plays?. I hope as much as any other poster on this forum that he gets back to his best, but until he does and stays injury free for a while, I think people frustrated with him are in the right imo

Mickey Mac doesn't get anywhere near as much stick, and though admittedly not on as big a wage as Sam, is still one of our highest paid players, and been out over a year now.