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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"Edited-I can see you didn't realise it was post Widnes.
I've been with you for a lot of the season and tried my best to back the club but things were really poor that night when Bilko made his comments. The comments were after the Widnes game so made some sense at the time. I think Bilko himself would say they were possibly a little OTT but he clearly had other things on his mind (which he's since explained in full and fair play because it's a very private matter).
Poor on Sam's part to go trying to points score against a fan who like us clearly loves the club. It's part and parcel of being a professional sportsman. Your work is there for all to see and people have opinions. There's a time and a place for Sam to have a word if he wants and that's not on social media for everyone to see.
It's left a bit of a sour taste in the mouth after a fabulous weekend to be truthful and I don't know Bilko from Adam.'"
Yeah I jumped the gun I missed the date that the comment was made by Bilko. Apologies to him if he reads this thread. That Widnes game was a shocker even I lost my rag that night.
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"At a time when the club are looking to improve the relationship with supporters following the fan survey his post is petty & careless.
Bilko is well respected amongst Wigan fans for his balanced views and his comments about it being an awful, awful season was spot on at the time. He was definitely not on his own with that and it was a view shared by many supporters. Hindsight is a wonderful thing as he has quite rightly pointed out. The bloke has given up his free time to commentate games on Wish FM, countless hours on the brilliant Cherry & White site and has submitted videos for Wigan TV too IIRC. No-one pays the guy a dime for it either.
Ian Lenagan should have a word in the ear of him for that. Stay professional and enjoy the success.'"
Agree here. There's not many supporters that have put their time and effort into Wigan RL (and the game in general) in his own spare time and for nowt for 10-15 years at least. I love my club and will defend it when attacked from opposing fans however I'm far from being a happy clapper and will call it when I see it. This is a bit low from Sam to be honest.
Good job Twitter and the forums weren't around when John Dorahay was in his last few games!
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"At a time when the club are looking to improve the relationship with supporters following the fan survey his post is petty & careless.
Bilko is well respected amongst Wigan fans for his balanced views and his comments about it being an awful, awful season was spot on at the time. He was definitely not on his own with that and it was a view shared by many supporters. Hindsight is a wonderful thing as he has quite rightly pointed out. The bloke has given up his free time to commentate games on Wish FM, countless hours on the brilliant Cherry & White site and has submitted videos for Wigan TV too IIRC. No-one pays the guy a dime for it either.
Ian Lenagan should have a word in the ear of him for that. Stay professional and enjoy the success.'"
The real sickly thing for me is that Sam wasn't involved in our last three games of the season and that coincided with some of our best displays. I'm certainly not sitting here saying we were better off without him because clearly we're not but I'd have expected a bit more humility considering he had his teammates to thank for being able to drag the comment up in the first place.
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| People always seem to get hung up about the penalty kick with the Widnes game, what would it have given us? The same points as Wire, we needed the win not the draw.
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| Quote goobervision="goobervision"People always seem to get hung up about the penalty kick with the Widnes game, what would it have given us? The same points as Wire, we needed the win not the draw.'"
We gave up 3-4 chances of taking the two in that last twenty minutes to be fair.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"The real sickly thing for me is that Sam wasn't involved in our last three games of the season and that coincided with some of our best displays. I'm certainly not sitting here saying we were better off without him because clearly we're not but I'd have expected a bit more humility considering he had his teammates to thank for being able to drag the comment up in the first place.'"
What's pathetic is that Sam gets paid a lot of money to do what he does for the club, to then try and put down a guy who's volunteered time and money to support the club and it's fans is just unbelievable. It shows zero class and zero humility, and as stated, he didn't even contribute to the upturn in form.
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| Quote ChrisA="ChrisA"What's pathetic is that Sam gets paid a lot of money to do what he does for the club, to then try and put down a guy who's volunteered time and money to support the club and it's fans is just unbelievable. It shows zero class and zero humility, and as stated, he didn't even contribute to the upturn in form.'"
I sense he's realising he's mucked up as he's just agreed with another fan that Bilkos comments helped give them a kick up the backside.
I've seen Tomkins reply to opposition fans on Twitter in the past and get in to running battles with them and thats stupid but this is plain crazy. He's a fantastic player and a great competitor but he's not had the best of seasons and his energy should be going in to his rehab. He should keep his nut down and get ready to blast back in to form in 2017.
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| Quote ChrisA="ChrisA"What's pathetic is that Sam gets paid a lot of money to do what he does for the club, to then try and put down a guy who's volunteered time and money to support the club and it's fans is just unbelievable. It shows zero class and zero humility, and as stated, he didn't even contribute to the upturn in form.'"
ST has showed zero class or humility all season and has frankly been an embarrassment in terms of performance and even worse as captain on the field. Someone needs to have a serious word about his conduct on the field.
That aside wigan's performance up until the widnes game were poor at best. Forget the back play. The basic ball skills we showed were frankly shocking. We couldmt pass a ball accurately from dummy half, it was behind over the head everywhere but where it should have gone and that resonated across the field. Something changed after the widnes game and I believe it was the players that had a word with wane.
Regardless no backs coach no next year equals no season ticket for me. I will not tolerate amother year of e. I will buy a GF ticket and jump on the band wagon along with the other 20,000 that turned up sat night but could be bothered all year.
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| Is the reaction to this not a bit OTT? Seemed more like a light-hearted comment from Sam to me.
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| Quote MadDogg="MadDogg"Is the reaction to this not a bit OTT? Seemed more like a light-hearted comment from Sam to me.'"
Could be right but I got more of a sense of him trying to embarrass one of his own fans which isn't really the done thing.
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| Quote Carneys Cover="Carneys Cover"ST has showed zero class or humility all season and has frankly been an embarrassment in terms of performance and even worse as captain on the field. Someone needs to have a serious word about his conduct on the field.
That aside wigan's performance up until the widnes game were poor at best. Forget the back play. The basic ball skills we showed were frankly shocking. We couldmt pass a ball accurately from dummy half, it was behind over the head everywhere but where it should have gone and that resonated across the field. Something changed after the widnes game and I believe it was the players that had a word with wane.
Regardless no backs coach no next year equals no season ticket for me. I will not tolerate amother year of poop. I will buy a GF ticket and jump on the band wagon along with the other 20,000 that turned up sat night but could be bothered all year.'"
Summed up perfectly, has my Mrs handed you my season summary?
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| Quote cadoo="cadoo"At a time when the club are looking to improve the relationship with supporters following the fan survey his post is petty & careless.
Bilko is well respected amongst Wigan fans for his balanced views and his comments about it being an awful, awful season was spot on at the time. He was definitely not on his own with that and it was a view shared by many supporters. Hindsight is a wonderful thing as he has quite rightly pointed out. The bloke has given up his free time to commentate games on Wish FM, countless hours on the brilliant Cherry & White site and has submitted videos for Wigan TV too IIRC. No-one pays the guy a dime for it either.
Ian Lenagan should have a word in the ear of him for that. Stay professional and enjoy the success.'"
I haven't seen ST comments on Twitter so can't say anything about that but I would concur that Bilko pretty much always comes across as a decent guy with logical and sensible statements and personally at the time I thought his comments after the Widnes game were pretty spot on.
I didn't think we had a chance of getting anywhere near winning the GF but that doesn't mean I'm not as chuffed as a little sand boy that we did. Not sure why ST can't accept that people do have opinions and are free to express them and just enjoy the afterglow after a great win.
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