This is very much the issue.

Basic bash and barge tactics with a team equipped to play that way.

A lack of support runners because we are too busy setting up for plays rather than playing what is in front of us.

Our once infamous but very successful wrestle at the PTB is now a shambles with most other teams being more successful and better drilled at it than us.

The biggest problem is it is the same issue, week in, week out over and over again regardless of who is on the pitch. As the saying goes if you do what you have always done you will get what you have always got.

I believe this team has the potential to comfortably win SL, however they are bring sent to battle with a blunt sword and being asked to beat an enemy armed with machine guns.

Individual brilliance got us in a string position in the league, once that is contained by the opposition we are being totally found out.

I expect a big win against Leeds next week, I hope for one at least, and for some everything will be fine, normal service resumed etc, but it will only be another papering over the cracks, if it happens.

Yes.
He expects his players to back each other up!

We are probably one the worst teams in the competition and haven't got the potential to win anything.
In the next few weeks we play teams who are lower than us in the league away Leeds, Salford, Cas and I think HKR. Can you honestly see us winning any of those games?
We have got absolutely nothing to offer..
I have seen more aggression from an U9's team. All this talk of "toughness" is absolute shoite. There isn't one guy in the entire squad and I include MM who could fight their way out of a paper bag. The softest mardest pack I have ever seen. Not one tackle hurts the opposition and as for wrestling well they can't even do that even though they must be in the "pit" all week.
We have backs who just can't pass. The pass from I think it was Smith from a PTB in the first half was so bad I genuinely couldn't believe it.
A bunch of lads with too much time on their hands who just can't play rugby.
Anyone who thinks that this shower of a club can win anything this season had better put down what they are smoking because it isn't legal.
These are not cracks these are fundemental issues and the fault is with the 3 wise men.

Wigan would quite possibly be very hard to beat given they had two quality halfbacks ... but they don't ... and as long as they don't ... they will have to play it rough and tough.
Not sure why they can't go out and get a couple.
Smith is hopeless.

When Sneyd scored the first try, a fella near me remarked "Fancy a 7 scoring like that", or words to that effect. You's sure wait a long time to see it from our 7. I didn't think Hull were fantastic (they didn't need to be), but they were organised, combative, and took their chances.

I think we are the most boring team in Super League. So dull. Same old plays.

Play 1 - short ball to prop
Play 2 - short ball to prop
Play 3 - Inside ball to a forward in the middle of the field
Play 4 - Same old move to the wing that stalls because the passing is poor/slow
Play 5 - Crap panic kick from Matty Smith


ALL GAME.

Time for change. I wouldn't like to see Wane sacked, just replaced when his contract is up.

How long as he got left? Just so I can set my alarm clock.

Stop copying our plays, Cunningham thought of it first. You will start using the drop off pass, next.

The fact that when we got within 2 points of Hull, all we did was drill a kick into their 10m was absolutely shameful and proves we have a lack of ideas, creativity, organisation and skill.

Our powderpuff pack, a braindead of late captain and bang average outside backs panicking with the ball.

We deserved what we got. A good hiding and exposed for what we are.

Average.

I know I sound like a stuck record but we will waltz into the top 4 and most likely be at OT in October. Which annoys me in a sense because we are cack for most of the season but have a habit of turning it on when needed. Saints are similar - they were a 40/20 away from the GF last year and they'd had dog's abuse off their fans most of the season.

If we don't lift silverware this season that will be 3 years without and that's enough for any Wigan coach to be shown the door. We are playing a progressively worsening brand of RL and it needs fresh ideas. Wane can count himself lucky he has had players like Bateman who can drag us to finals regardless of our complete lack of structures and organisation.

I don't agree that we're one of the worst teams in the league, we clearly aren't. But we have miles more potential than we are achieving. People have said individual errors can't be blamed on the coach - I think they can.

A top coach instills focus, composure, confidence and has the team working to clearly understood plans that rub out brainfarts and panic plays. Maguire being the obvious comparison. This current team looks like a rabble potched together with sod all organisation!

Saying all that, we'll t*** Leeds at Newcastle next week

As a Hull fan, I was really happy with those plays, you were on top and causing us problems, you should have tried a more attacking play, we were winning, but still trying to win the game (although some dumb offloads) but it paid off in the end.

I reckon if you had gone for it at that period you would have won.