The best player on the field on Sunday only has a one year deal at HKR!

In truth though I think we will desperately need a fullback and probably a prop as well.

Wane works with the squad he's given.

If a stand off and a prop would have been added (on top of what was signed) I'm sure he'd have gratefully accepted it.

I'll blame wane for the teams discipline issues but I get the feeling he has as much involvement in recruitment as you and me.

At the moment we could have The burgess twins in the front row and we would be in the same position. Poor discipline, with the ball and with the ref, and some very poor decision making has lost our points this season.

Get this sorted and we'll have a clearer picture on our recruitment needs.

Carney would not get a work permit or visa.
If you signed any of the others what do you think would happen to the likes of Hampshire, Williams, Shorrocks and Powell?

It's always so easy to throw questions like this back isn't it but they are straw man arguments.

It's the same sort of argument as we see when anyone says Smith's goal kicking isn't good enough for example. "Who would you have instead?". I have no idea but I do know its the club and coaches job to sort the issue out and its the same with recruitment. If the recruitment has been poor then it's up to the club and the coach to sort it out.

We has fans have no idea who is available or who isn't so asking who did we miss in the close season isn't really a valid question. We have signed players in the past who we as fans didn't know were available until we actually signed them.

He surely can't be totally out of the loop for recruitment. We do sign players so for example did he have no say in signing Tauati and Patrick?

Are you entirely sure Wane didn't decide we didn't actually need a more experienced stand off? He has a lot of faith in the younger players.

I am pretty sure he also said he was happy with the centres we have yet with Thornley out still we have Gelling who for all his 110% effort and charging runs is far from the finished article and is not a wingers centre yet holds down a 1st team spot. He strikes me he's another player Wane has a lot of faith in.

Looking around Super League there do seem to be a number of Half Backs who we should have had an interest in. IMO we will regret not signing someone to directly replace Green.

The Patrick signing has Waney all over it. He looks rubbish at the moment, but maybe the firmer grounds will see an improvement in him. To be fair the signings of Sarginson and Bateman have been successes.

I think that we have boys doing mens jobs in too many positions. Although Hampshire, Burgess, Williams, Connor Farrell and Sutton may turn out to be good players we can really only afford one or two of them in the team at any given time.

I also feel that Gelling might be a second rower (and an average one at that) but Goulding reminded us on Sunday what a centre should be doing. A mistake to let him go IMO.

The lack of creativity at 6, 7 and 9 is also a worry. People are picking on Matty at the moment, but my bigger concern is at hooker and Stand Off.

They will play if they are good enough and that's the way it should be.

Do the players you've mentioned have a devine right to play in the first team? We should be getting the best that's available either via the academy or from elsewhere.

We shouldn't just be playing guys because they've come from our youth set up.

I agree with this.

The shirt needs to be earned.

I don't care what happens to Hampshire, Williams or Powell over anyone else in the club. They've been getting plenty of opportunity and haven't exactly been setting the world alight. If they prove they are good enough then great if not then get someone who is. At the moment they are not good enough to be first team regulars. (Having said that Hampshire was one of the few bright spots on Sunday. He needs to back it up now)

Campese and Burns aren't in the same class as Carney, or even Walsh. TC has a good kicking game, but no pace and is a bit if a crock. Burns is likely to be suspended for half the season (what do you mean, he'd feel right at home?

). Kelly OTOH could be a good buy for HKR.

I can think of a dynamic young centre who doesn't always get a game for his current club, and who would absolutely brilliant for us.










I refer, of course, to Konrad Hurrell!

That wasn't the point.
We can't just sign an Aussie 30 odd year old halfback and just let these kids go. What's the point of having probably the best academy set up in the country if you're going to discard them at 20 years old? They have to be blooded gradually, they are NOT ready to play first team rugby week in week out at this stage of their career in such demanding pivotal positions. How many 20 year old halfbacks are playing SL? Saints tried it with Lomax and Gaskell and it failed.

If the likes of Williams and Hampshire finish up at Saints or Leeds can you imagine the outcry from Wigan fans?