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| Not great news, and I am little shocked along with plenty of other Roosters fans. Never mind, we have a great coaching set up (except him) and a great playing line up, so not worried one abit about 2014. He might do well as an assistant.
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| Quote Bondi_Warrior="Bondi_Warrior"Not great news, and I am little shocked along with plenty of other Roosters fans. Never mind, we have a great coaching set up (except him) and a great playing line up, so not worried one abit about 2014. He might do well as an assistant.'"
This is the thing. Some people are better suited and make excellent assistant or specialist skills/conditioning coaches.
Good luck to him.
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| I think he would be better suited to being someone who gets things put in place. Once you go past the team and delve deeper, he set up training camps, shown a pathway for the England Knights to the full team, kept in contact with the oz based lads, unearthed Widdop (how many people honestly knew about him prior to his first call up?). These were just a few off the top of my head and I'm sure there will be plenty more which will probably go unnoticed.
I remember him doing a TV interview not long after he got the job. I thought he sounded more like a business man than a coach.
You can argue that he chose the wrong pair but you cant argue that selecting a half back pairing and sticking with it. Instead of chopping and changing it every couple of months and unsettling a team.
Good luck to him in the future. But thankfully he wont be near selecting the England team in the near future!
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| I think he did a decent job to be honest. People slated his appointment which is fair enough because he hadn't really achieved enough to warrant the job but many then steadfastly refused to acknowledge any good he did from then onwards. We did better than most expected, there's no shame in being 2 points away from beating the kiwis and 8 points away from beating the aussies. If he really did get everything wrong like many said we would have been hammered in both games like most people predicted before the cup started. People set their expectations, he exceeded them, so people changed their expectations so that they could still deem him a failure.
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| Hang on a minute. So it's SM's fault Graham and the others went out boozing is it? I noticed that when Graham came back into the team he could do no wrong. If anything i'd blame Graham Hock et al for us not making it through to the final. I'not SM's biggest fan by any means, but to say he should have just let it slide is ridiculous...
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| Quote Madderzahatter="Madderzahatter"Hang on a minute. So it's SM's fault Graham and the others went out boozing is it? I noticed that when Graham came back into the team he could do no wrong. If anything i'd blame Graham Hock et al for us not making it through to the final. I'not SM's biggest fan by any means, but to say he should have just let it slide is ridiculous...'"
I blame Sinfield for shooting out of the line and allowing Johnson to score
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"I think he did a decent job to be honest. People slated his appointment which is fair enough because he hadn't really achieved enough to warrant the job but many then steadfastly refused to acknowledge any good he did from then onwards. We did better than most expected, there's no shame in being 2 points away from beating the kiwis and 8 points away from beating the aussies. If he really did get everything wrong like many said we would have been hammered in both games like most people predicted before the cup started. People set their expectations, he exceeded them, so people changed their expectations so that they could still deem him a failure.'"
What were the expectations he exceeded exactly? He was in charge for 3 years and got one win from 7 against the other 2 elite nations. The minimum requirement for the WC was to reach the final IMO, and regardless of how close he came, he failed. His time in charge was littered with odd squad and team selections and the way he handled the media during the WC was nothing short of embarrassing.
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| Quote [Gareth="[Gareth"I blame Sinfield for shooting out of the line and allowing Johnson to score'"
You get my point though... 
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| Quote Madderzahatter="Madderzahatter"You get my point though...
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| Quote Madderzahatter="Madderzahatter"Hang on a minute. So it's SM's fault Graham and the others went out boozing is it? I noticed that when Graham came back into the team he could do no wrong. If anything i'd blame Graham Hock et al for us not making it through to the final. I'not SM's biggest fan by any means, but to say he should have just let it slide is ridiculous...'"
Hang on, he let hardaker leave with "no disciplinary issues" to be promptly fined by his club. Having previously disciplined the above for the supposed exact same thing. At best that's horrible inconsistency.
I (along with 99% of people) don't know all the details about what went on - but it smacked of him trying to be the big I am, I can drop you from the team if I want. Any man who has to say I'm king is no king etc. If he had any sort of control on the team it wouldn't be a case of "not letting it slide" as it wouldn't of happened.
He had no control of the team, that is a coaches job, he failed in that, that's his responsibility. Did he do anything special to make up for this? Not really, that's why we lost, that's why he didn't meet expectations.
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| Quote Magic Superbeetle="Magic Superbeetle"Hang on, he let hardaker leave with "no disciplinary issues" to be promptly fined by his club. Having previously disciplined the above for the supposed exact same thing. At best that's horrible inconsistency.
I (along with 99% of people) don't know all the details about what went on - but it smacked of him trying to be the big I am, I can drop you from the team if I want. Any man who has to say I'm king is no king etc. If he had any sort of control on the team it wouldn't be a case of "not letting it slide" as it wouldn't of happened.
He had no control of the team, that is a coaches job, he failed in that, that's his responsibility. Did he do anything special to make up for this? Not really, that's why we lost, that's why he didn't meet expectations.'"
I never mentioned Hardaker or said that SM was a great coach, but how many brain cells does it take to think to lay off the booze for 6 weeks while you compete in one of the biggest sporting events of your career? The players aren't completely blameless in all this and some don't seem to have two brain cells to rub together no matter how good they are at rugby...
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| So McNamara is moving to Australia and managing England part-time. They're having a laugh. He made a mess of doing the job full-time and yet he's going to supervise the players from the other side of the world!
With a good coach we would have beaten Australia in the first group match, beaten Fiji in the semi and had a good go against Australia in the final.
He's like the schoolteacher whose class can get away with anything. His selection was rubbish. He even picked a Burgess who couldn't get into first grade. At South Sydney.
Mmm...Widdop or Chase? 90% of fans got it right but the penny only dropped for the semi.
What a hard game that was. I know, let's not use Ablett at all and just give Burrow a cameo appearance.
He must be the least successful club coach to become national team manager.
I despair.
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