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Quote: DaveO "You can't compare that era to this. Edwards,Schofield and Hanley and other GB players also went the other way to Aus on short term deals as well in the off season.'"


I agree, but I had to make a comparable point considering Matty was discussing Kenny etc. I think focusing on our homegrown talent is even more so important in the SC era.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Exactly, imports and poor management of the SC led to our demise during a poor era.'"


Primarily it was poor SC management, if any quality import is willing to fit within the SC constraints they should be welcomed to the club.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "I think we agree within reason. I do see your point, but I would and will always back Wigan players first and foremost, more so in a SC era. I'd sooner see a Wigan coach and Wigan star players, it means more to them, this reflects in length of term at the club and key years spend in a Wigan shirt.

IMO it's better to invest in what we're developing rather than use that money on an Aus import looking for a final payday who doesn't care about the club in the same way.'"


I think the more UK (wouldn't restrict it to just Wigan - ala Mossop/Cumbria) players we have in our squad of 30 the better. I just think we should always have room for 3-4 "QUALITY" imports to complement them. I still think we have too many imports (currently 7), we should have 3 or 4.

By having only 3 or 4 we could perhaps recruit of a slightly higher standard than the 7. At the same time allowing three additional UK players to develop in the first team squad.

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Quote: Bergen Bulldog "Primarily it was poor SC management, if any quality import is willing to fit within the SC constraints they should be welcomed to the club.'"


I agree, but not at the expense of strong Wigan talent. Hence my original post of focusing and welcoming a wigan coaching staff who will be more loyal to the club and help its development for the club, not to advertise themselves to the NRL.

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Quote: MattyB "I think the more UK (wouldn't restrict it to just Wigan - ala Mossop/Cumbria) players we have in our squad of 30 the better. I just think we should always have room for 3-4 "QUALITY" imports to complement them. I still think we have too many imports (currently 7), we should have 3 or 4.

By having only 3 or 4 we could perhaps recruit of a slightly higher standard than the 7. At the same time allowing three additional UK players to develop in the first team squad.'"


Perhaps. I think we see each others points. Currently, out of our current team I feel only Carmont. Tommy and Pat are proven successes. Even Carmont came in the twilight of his career.

But TOP NRL players often only come to a UK club at the back end of their career, I'd sooner have a Wigan lad who it means something to taking up the cap.

There are several UK players not at Wigan who I would gladly welcome into the team and feel more comfortable about their length of stay and dediication to the club.

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Quote: MattyB "I think the more UK (wouldn't restrict it to just Wigan - ala Mossop/Cumbria) players we have in our squad of 30 the better. I just think we should always have room for 3-4 "QUALITY" imports to complement them. I still think we have too many imports (currently 7), we should have 3 or 4.

By having only 3 or 4 we could perhaps recruit of a slightly higher standard than the 7. At the same time allowing three additional UK players to develop in the first team squad.'"


I'd go with that and lets not forget if we could recruit real quality they do put bums on seats and excite the fans more than a team of all UK players would. Harsh on the UK players but that is just the way it is. I am sure there is more interest in Aus in the odd UK player who goes down under these days than your average NRL player.

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Much of it is down to the individual, look at Dean Bell an overseas player but nobody could ever question his commitment & loyalty to the Wigan club.

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Quote: Bergen Bulldog "Much of it is down to the individual, look at Dean Bell an overseas player but nobody could ever question his commitment & loyalty to the Wigan club.'"


Exactly, but I think the investment of the SC should be in the home grown system first. A Dean Bell is VERY hard to find. Plus his stint at Wigan was pre-cap.

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Quote: NickyKiss "Going forward i'd like to think we'll keep a good working relationship with Maguire and use his hands of knowledge in the NRL when choosing which players to sign.

Having that kind of guy on hand to give some advice can only be a positive thing.'"


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I agree that it should not be restricted to Wiganers, any British Player should be looked at especially at the youth stage. There is nothing wrong with overseas players or managers as long as they are New Zealanders who never let you down, think of all the great Kiwis that have played for us. When I started supporting Wigan in the 1940s, the team was all born within 10 miles of Wigan plus 2 Kiwis, Cec Mountford and Brian Nordgen and we were world beaters.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Easy.

Steve Renouf
Mark Riddell
Trent Barrett
Adrian Lamb
Amos Roberts
etc.

Now lets look at the top Aus players, Billy Slater, Cam Smith, Greg Inglis Jarryd Hayne, do you think any of them would come to play SL? No. They only come over when around 30 for a big contract at the back end of their careers. I.e Fitzgibbon. Mason etc.
Why back these in place of some fantastic home grown products? I wouldn't. The majority of our improves of recent years haven't paid off.

I'd sooner put the cap back into the system and develop from within. Here you'l get a player who will play for the shirt and not leave early to return to Aus.

I'd sooner invest in a team featuring wigan or wigan trained lads.

Tomkins x3
Mossop
Tuson
Prescott
McM
Faz
Lockers
Hock
Charnley
Marsh
King
Russell
Crosby

These are the future.

PS, How old was Miles when he came over? How long did Kenny and Ferguson stay around for? Sorry pal, I'd take Shaun Edwards and his career over them any day.'"



Crazy, when we signed Lam that season he was MOM for queensland as he hammered NSW. As for Renouf, was one of the ebst centres we ever had...look at how many he and his winger scored.

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Quote: Last Son of Wigan "Exactly, but I think the investment of the SC should be in the home grown system first. A Dean Bell is VERY hard to find. Plus his stint at Wigan was pre-cap.'"

what about the like of Brett Dallas then?

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Quote: Baked Bean Boogie "what about the like of Brett Dallas then?'"


What about the likes of Andrew Farrar? We could both pick examples of either point all day. Like I said, I'd sooner back Wigan talent.

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Quote: Pieman "Crazy, when we signed Lam that season he was MOM for queensland as he hammered NSW. As for Renouf, was one of the ebst centres we ever had...look at how many he and his winger scored.'"


Renouf was at the end of his career when he came to us. Proves my point. You can get top talent from the UK in their prime, just not top talent in their prime from Aus.

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I would take players like george carmont and paaaaaat richards every day orf the week.

Anyway, back on topic, GIVE WANE THE GIG

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