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| Quote Smalls="Smalls"Ryan Hall? Are we still in 2009?'"
Surely Riley should have been the other winger with Richards!
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| For a team that has won the Super League for 3 straight seasons had their worst season for quite awhile have Senior & Hall selected yet Bridge, Atkins & Gleeson have all been better than him and Goulding & Riley where both far better than Hall this season the try scoring charts prove that.
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| Quote jinkin jimmy="jinkin jimmy"I'm not one for stats as a rule but that's pretty one sided. At least ToffeeLady laughed!! From the little I've seen of Roby this season he looks to be playing way better than in his (ridiculous) MOS season'"
He's definitely had a better season than 2007 IMO, he has been phenomenal this year - especially given the injuries he's had around him.
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| Can't really argue with that to be fair.
Even though we're the top 3, it's nice to see 10 of the 13 from Lancashire teams.
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| Quote wiganrl="wiganrl"For a team that has won the Super League for 3 straight seasons had their worst season for quite awhile have Senior & Hall selected yet Bridge, Atkins & Gleeson have all been better than him and Goulding & Riley where both far better than Hall this season the try scoring charts prove that.'"
You can't just base how well someone has played on tries scored alone. There are plenty of factors that can lead to someone getting more tries than just the player being better. Even then Hall has only got two fewer tries than Riley and Goulding but he's made more meters, far more tackle busts and a similar number of clean breaks. I think he deserves it,
Senior on the other hand 
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| Quote Smalls="Smalls"Ryan Hall? Are we still in 2009?'"
Same thought crossed my mind. Agree with other comments about Senior that if he can get in we must have very few top centres in the game. Think the same applies to Wellens as well at FB.
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| Can the man of steel only be narrowed down to 3 of those players now?
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Same thought crossed my mind. Agree with other comments about Senior that if he can get in we must have very few top centres in the game. Think the same applies to Wellens as well at FB.
Dave'"
I think if you take the line that Tomkins can't be picked at FB, Wellens is a fairly clear shout. Which is pretty lame to be honest.
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| Quote RICHARD5LEGEND="RICHARD5LEGEND"Can the man of steel only be narrowed down to 3 of those players now?'"
MOS is already sorted.
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| Quote Unusual Suspect="Unusual Suspect"You can't just base how well someone has played on tries scored alone. There are plenty of factors that can lead to someone getting more tries than just the player being better. Even then Hall has only got two fewer tries than Riley and Goulding but he's made more meters, far more tackle busts and a similar number of clean breaks. I think he deserves it,'"
Hall has played [u5 more games[/u than Goulding. He has also made many more errors (over double) and missed nearly three times as many tackles (39 v 17, a pretty shocking stat in its own right IMO), made far fewer runs from dummy half. When you look at the whole picture and average things out Hall does not stand out as better in many stats by a great deal and in some is far worse.
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I know that.
I'm not saying he's been better than either of them just that to me he has been outstanding this year for us, the difference in us when he's on the field like.
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I know that.
I'm not saying he's been better than either of them just that to me he has been outstanding this year for us, the difference in us when he's on the field like.
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| Quote ToffeeLady="ToffeeLady"I know that.
I'm not saying he's been better than either of them just that to me he has been outstanding this year for us, the difference in us when he's on the field like.'"
Yeah I know sorry, he's had a good year for you lot.
I think that will be your big weakness next season - hooker. I think MM is an average Joe and TL is better than average (I know he's played there in a WC winning Kiwi side, but he's no Buderus/Monaghan/Roby etc, in my opinion of course).
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