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| I've said 'yes'.
His consistancy particulary in the earlier stages of the stages needs to be worked on, but are the any coaches that don't have flaws to their game?
Under Brian Noble this season, we have reached the Semi-Final of the Challenge Cup and have reached the playoff Semi-Finals with experts tipping us to make the final. With Noble being head coach of this club, our academy and reserve grades have both made their respective Grand Finals with one side winning and the other pending result.
We have ALL questioned his decision making this season and the majority have questioned his future at the club including myself, but can anybody really have done better the above given the tools that he has? If so, is the calibure of that coach available? I had a right to question whether he was the right coach for the club, but he is redeeming himself and I'm not too proud to admit that.
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| Quote ABP'="ABP'"I've said 'yes'.
His consistancy particulary in the earlier stages of the stages needs to be worked on, but are the any coaches that don't have flaws to their game?
Under Brian Noble this season, we have reached the Semi-Final of the Challenge Cup and have reached the playoff Semi-Finals with experts tipping us to make the final. With Noble being head coach of this club, our academy and reserve grades have both made their respective Grand Finals with one side winning and the other pending result.
We have ALL questioned his decision making this season and the majority have questioned his future at the club including myself, but can anybody really have done better the above given the tools that he has? If so, is the calibure of that coach available? I had a right to question whether he was the right coach for the club, but he is redeeming himself and I'm not too proud to admit that.'"
Unfortunately, I think it may be too late for him to redeem himself, as replacing a head coach is the sort of move a club has to start engineering at an early stage.
I guess that's one drawback of coaching a team that only performs at the tail-end of the season.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Unfortunately, I think it may be too late for him to redeem himself, as replacing a head coach is the sort of move a club has to start engineering at an early stage.
I guess that's one drawback of coaching a team that only performs at the tail-end of the season.'"
If that's the case, then I can't begrudge the decision regardless of how our season ends.
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"Or how bad?'"
I think we have seen enough bad this season at times, but I accept your point.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I just think that sometimes you have to take risks.
:1lt1iu2fBut as I've said before, if IL gets this wrong I will willingly join in the chorus of disapproval.[/
If IL gets it wrong?
Which way?
If he hires someone else and they aren't as good as Noble?
If so then a lot of the Fans need to be criticised Not IL as I believe that at least some part of IL's decision making will/has been influenced by a lot of the Negative press BN gets from fans of his own club.
I don't see how we could criticise him for hiring someone else in that scenario and "Taking a Risk" as you put it when partly the fans wanted him to do this?
When your saying "If IL gets this wrong you will join in the chorus of disapproval".
At what point will you say he's got it wrong? If He re signs Noble?
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When the results with the new man don't go the perfect way?
Either way we would then be criticising him for resigning a Top SL coach without knowing what results he's going to get us.
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We would then Criticise IL for hiring the wrong man when we could have had the right man all along and yet partly his hand was forced to change him possibly due to pressure from within who would then be the chief architechts no doubt of the New Man's or IL's downfall.
If he does Hire a new man then I sincerely hope that We All give him the length of his contract to complete his job irrespective of our success. (IMO only complete disaster such as bottom 3 or 4 would be deemed worthy of sacking IMO)
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| Quote endoman="endoman"I think we have seen enough bad this season at times, but I accept your point.'"
But have we seen any different than 90% of oher clubs?
I would suspect that some of the rugby Hudds have served up wouldn't be good enough for our fans even "If" the results were slightly better?
I totally agree that the 2 x starts we have had last 2 x years havent been good enough However there is a fine line between success and failure on this front.
We were on the wrong end of 2 or 3 50/50 games early season and I have no doubt that could have put a totally different spin on our season as a whole.
Is that Nobles fault, well ultimately he's the man with his head on the block, and that's why I wouldn't mind changing coaches irrespective of GF results etc.
The right man Long term is the right man irrespective of results this week.
I just think that certain fans have made up their mind and the 1st negative thing to happen to the club, which will inevitably happen as it will happen with all clubs, and the whole Circus will start again!
That's why Im voting NO! And that's not because I am against BN staying just I don't think he can do any right in the eyes of some.
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| I'm not a fan of Nobby's style of RL and I was quite happy for him to be given the shove mid season. In hindsight that wouldn't have been a good idea. Some of the rugby we've started playing is very entertaining but it doesn't cover the issues we've had at the start of the year. I do expect some shock results throughout the course of the year and losing to Celtic wouldn't have been so hard to swallow if it was just a blip. Loses to Castleford, Hull, Wakey, Catalan & Warrington effectively ruined what could have been a good season for us and if we'd won those games we'd have been in second place.
Getting to the GF would be great but it still doesn't hide the fact that we've been underachieving in the league for a few years now.
Will I be happy for us to win the final? Of course. Will I be happy for Noble to go if we win? I suspect that decision was made months ago though.
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| I thought you were leaving this thread ?
The simple fact with Noble is that people do not agree about him.
No view is right 100% No view is 100% wrong...
Now here is a good idea...
LOVE HIM OR HATE HIM... or any point in between...
ffs will you lot grow up and spend a couple of days getting brhind the team and enjoying the fact that we are 80 minutes from a Grand Final.
SURELY THAT SHOULD BE THE CENTER OF ATTENTION FOR A DAY OR TWO.
LEAVE THIS TILL THE SEASON IS OVER EH?
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| Quote Jukesays="Jukesays"Quote Jukesays="Cruncher"I just think that sometimes you have to take risks.
But as I've said before, if IL gets this wrong I will willingly join in the chorus of disapproval.[/quote
If IL gets it wrong?
Which way?
If he hires someone else and they aren't as good as Noble?
If so then a lot of the Fans need to be criticised Not IL as I believe that at least some part of IL's decision making will/has been influenced by a lot of the Negative press BN gets from fans of his own club.
I don't see how we could criticise him for hiring someone else in that scenario and "Taking a Risk" as you put it when partly the fans wanted him to do this?
When your saying "If IL gets this wrong you will join in the chorus of disapproval".
At what point will you say he's got it wrong? If He re signs Noble?
Or
When the results with the new man don't go the perfect way?
Either way we would then be criticising him for resigning a Top SL coach without knowing what results he's going to get us.
Or
We would then Criticise IL for hiring the wrong man when we could have had the right man all along and yet partly his hand was forced to change him possibly due to pressure from within who would then be the chief architechts no doubt of the New Man's or IL's downfall.
If he does Hire a new man then I sincerely hope that We All give him the length of his contract to complete his job irrespective of our success. (IMO only complete disaster such as bottom 3 or 4 would be deemed worthy of sacking IMO)'" '"
That's a lot of questions for a man who'd supposedly had enough of this subject.
But there's a simple answer.
IL will have got it wrong (in my opinion), if he replaces Noble with someone who's credentials aren't as good as Noble's.
Let's not get into all these silly ifs, buts and what-ifs. You know exactly what I mean. The chairman needs to replace Nobby with someone who is highly rated and I don't just mean because he's a nice guy or because, for example, 'he's a Wiganer'. He needs to be someone very promising for this club, not just someone who 'fancies having a go at it'.
If IL does this, and the new guy gets it wrong (i.e. if the Wigan team plays as badly under him as it has under Noble), I won't blame IL. He can only do so much, and if he's appointed the new man on form then he can't be held accountable. As to what happens then, Heaven only knows, though I suspect IL will give him plenty time to prove himself - let's be honest, he gave Nobby an extra year when many said that he shouldn't.
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| I think the easy answer which a few people have said is that it's already been sorted out if he is staying or not. If we win the GF then I wouldn't mind just to see if he could build on that and the players would know they are some of the best.
First job for the new coach IMO is making Robin Park a fortress... BN has not done this.
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"Quote Cruncher="Jukesays"
That's a lot of questions for a man who'd supposedly had enough of this subject.
But there's a simple answer.
IL will have got it wrong (in my opinion), if he replaces Noble with someone who's credentials aren't as good as Noble's.
Let's not get into all these silly ifs, buts and what-ifs. You know exactly what I mean. The chairman needs to replace Nobby with someone who is highly rated and I don't just mean because he's a nice guy or because, for example, 'he's a Wiganer'. He needs to be someone very promising for this club, not just someone who 'fancies having a go at it'.
If IL does this, and the new guy gets it wrong (i.e. if the Wigan team plays as badly under him as it has under Noble), I won't blame IL. He can only do so much, and if he's appointed the new man on form then he can't be held accountable. As to what happens then, Heaven only knows, though I suspect IL will give him plenty time to prove himself - let's be honest, he gave Nobby an extra year when many said that he shouldn't.'" '"
Then were not too far apart on the subject.
Some however seem to want to sack him irrespective of wether we have a better option, just anyone other than Nobby!
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Some would keep him just because of 1 GF appearance and not because he is or isn't the right man for the next 2/3 years!
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