Jack what does it matter if Tomkins is a regular? You asked who would cover 13. The answer is Tomkins. We could then still run with a second row containing any of the following.....

Mossop
Bailey
Hansen
Farrell
Coley

Regards Mossop, again you are entitled to your opinion fair enough, would be interesting to gauge the opinion of him at SL with the Hudds fans and coaching staff who all rate him very highly in this position.

I agree he will be a Prop long term but for the next year at least he needs to play in the secondrow.

Mossop, Flanny and Farrell have more potential than Hansen or an ageing Bailey.

Coley will always be needed at prop, and who's to say he's as good as a second row as Flanny and Farrell will be a year or so down the line? He has trouble running as it is.

To be honest i am not surprised the irony is lost on you, but i would not speak for others.



Everyone is entitled to there opinion, i think for the reasons i have stated clearly it is not such a bad thing for him to go to grow as a player both you and jack do, I see nothing in your line of reasoning to convince me otherwise which is fair enough.

Why both you and jack get so worked up when someone disagrees with them is beyond me, as is your line of thought on this but there we go.

The notion of running with a lightweight inexperienced backrow with a lightweight frontrow does not in my opinion in any way help us when it comes to winning the forward battle.

Coley and Mossop are props.

Bailey should be gone next season.

All of a sudden we look a bit thin on the ground.

So the notion is if Coley will always be needed at Prop O'Carroll should leave or maybe Davis?

But then they are both young Wigan products,.........

Mossop is a secondrow who will become a Prop. Coley can cover second row if needed.

In your opinion Bailey should be gone next year fair enough and prior to Hock's ban i agreed with you, but again you cannot expect to win the forwards battle with an inexperienced lightweight backrow, given we have such a lightweight frontrow.

As usual I find myself going round in circles whenever you 2 get your heads together, and to be honest i have not the time for it, so feel free to crack on, until I see something that takes the debate forward there is no point in continuing with posting on this topic.

Jonh, please don't rate yourself so highly, that is your problem, no one is getting worked up over anything you say, infact it's the exact opposite, hence why I reassured Jack that you are a pr@tt who likes to argue, thats all you are in all honesty.

Once again you've got it wrong, I have totally no issue with someone disagreeing with me, everyone is entitled to an opinion, it would be a boring forum without discussion! But it's your manner and the way you suddenly become condersending with your attitude to people on he who disagree with your points, I read some of your replies to Jack, same condersending belittling replies you always try to us when someone disgrees.

Relax Jonh and realise, this is only a discussion board.

No one at the Wigan club has said anything about Mossop moving to prop.

Nice of you to even give us the time you have given us so far.

However, in future, please feel free to ignore my posts altogether.

Thanks.

I think you are confusing condecsending with opinion backed up by why i hold this opinion, nothing more nothing less.

To accused of calling people names and then twice in the same thread to be called a pratt by the same posted making the accusation does make me wonder about you.

Who said they did?

In nearly ever post you mention how Mossop will be a prop in the future. I thought you backed up your opinion with facts?