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| Quote: Hoops "I don't think that there is a lot between the two of them. In one game Sam may play better then it could be reversed the next. Both have got quite a bit of developing to do IMO and it will be interesting how they compare this time next year.
I think it is great that there are these two, plus Myler, who can possibly develop into world class players to give the Aussies a run for their money.
If they all keep fit it's a pity that one of them will be the bridesmaid as far as international honours are concerned, unless Sam develops as a centre later?
Who will it be? My money's on Myler as the misser due to his woeful defence. What do you think?'"
That could prove to be his downfall at international level, against the Aussies and Kiwis atleast.
Whereare Tomkins has great defence and Eastmond is far better than Myler
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| I agree Myler isnt proven in a big/good team the other two are shinning in good teams. That might sound daft but all too often we see people come in and cannot perform on the big stage in a big team.
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| Quote: wigan pie man "if eastmond hadnt scored the winning try he would have been fairly anonymous.................and he only scored it because of the weather, dont forget that.
on a dry pitch he wouldnt have got close.
sam hands down for me.'"
His impact shows he's a game winning player, and although i agree that Tomkins was better in Fridays game, they are two different 'types' of halfbacks, and if played together, may give England a great chance in future world cups
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| Quote: Mugwump "Apart from consistently finding space (especially from distance) with his kicking (something Saints have struggled to achieve for some time), being halted half a metre before the line on his way to a second try, showing excellent hands (given the conditions) taking a trio of shocking passes without knocking on, demonstrating solidity and tenacity in defence etc. etc. etc.'"
well you was watching from your saints bias.......me from my wigan bias, so i guess you saw things i didnt, and vive versa.
i still think tomkins...........and where did you dream about eastmonds defence???
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| Quote: wigan pie man "well you was watching from your saints bias.......me from my wigan bias, so i guess you saw things i didnt, and vive versa.
i still think tomkins...........and where did you dream about eastmonds defence???'"
Each to their own I suppose. They both play a different kind of game. in time to come they should make a great international pairing. Burrow and Mcguire who are they.
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "Each to their own I suppose. They both play a different kind of game. in time to come they should make a great international pairing. Burrow and Mcguire who are they.
Totally agree there games in my opinion are vastly different, end of story.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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| Quote: Agent Mulder "Each to their own I suppose. They both play a different kind of game. in time to come they should make a great international pairing. Burrow and Mcguire who are they.
Burrow and McGuire will never be world class players, only time will tell to see if Eastmond and Tomkins can be.
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| Quote: wigan pie man "i still think tomkins...........and where did you dream about eastmonds defence???'"
Eastmond's defence, while not perfect, is streets ahead of what it was. I've noticed, for instance, that he seems to have stopped running out of his line. Also he is not shy of defending these days. I think he lost a bit of confidence last season when he went in wrong on a tackle and gave himself a helluva shoulder injury (surgery required). His technique has improved, his effort has improved and his results have improved. Defence can be taught. Some of the superb plays he has made, however, have pure instinct written all over them. We didn't see much of that on Friday night but we saw a lot of it against Wire. Perhaps the event got to him, I don't know.
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| Anyone noticed it’s all gone quiet on the Myler front since both Eastmond and Tomkins have shown what a true great prospect looks like.
You put either of Eastmond or Tomkins in a rampant England side vs France and they’d make Myler look like the over hyped average SL player he is.
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| We will see how good Myler is next year in a pretty good Wire team.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "Anyone noticed it’s all gone quiet on the Myler front since both Eastmond and Tomkins have shown what a true great prospect looks like.
You put either of Eastmond or Tomkins in a rampant England side vs France and they’d make Myler look like the over hyped average SL player he is.'"
Myler is a good player in a poor side but he will be shown up playing for wire next year. I do not doubt his ability in attack but his all round game is not there.
Tomkins playing for England along side Eastmond should be the way to go next year for that game IMO.
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| Quote: odemwingie "Myler is a good player in a poor side'"
I've said that for a while now.
If you put Eastmond or Tomkins in the Salford team with the amount of ball they’d get you’d see how good they are compared to Myler. He’s got it easy at Salford really as if he tries something and it comes off he’s the next big thing but if they lose and he plays bad it’s blamed on the poor players round him.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: thepriestman85 "I've said that for a while now.
If you put Eastmond or Tomkins in the Salford team with the amount of ball they’d get you’d see how good they are compared to Myler. He’s got it easy at Salford really as if he tries something and it comes off he’s the next big thing but if they lose and he plays bad it’s blamed on the poor players round him.'"
Myler would be good with the right partner at a big team though, I just fear for his career going to warrington.
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| Quote: odemwingie "Myler would be good with the right partner at a big team though, I just fear for his career going to warrington.'"
Briers Mk 2 - good on his day, but will always lack the consistency and overall game to guide a team to trophies.
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39110_1363272058.jpg Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot
Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good
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sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league
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Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate
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the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever
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Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go
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Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know
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| Quote: giwildgo "Briers Mk 2 - good on his day, but will always lack the consistency and overall game to guide a team to trophies.'"
Briers is annoying though, Myler is not.
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