There is also the employment law aspect of it. Clubb appears to have been found guilty by an RFL tribunal 'on the balance of probability'. That is clearly the level of proof required to ban and fine someone, and I doubt Clubb paid for legal representation, because it wouldn't be worth it to avoid a £500 fine.

Compare that with dismissing someone. I'm not sure that the level of proof will be 'balance of probability'. Bare in mind that the club have probably said very positive things about his character during that tribunal, which he could now use against them if they tried to say he is racist after all. The lost earnings would be enough to make it worth Clubb hiring a solicitor to bring an unfair dismissal claim against Wigan if he has a case. Much less risky for Wigan to put him on an equality and diversity course then just to wait a few months until his contract expires anyway. They don't have to select him, they could even pay up the rest of his contract and tell him he is surplus to requirements for performance reasons.

Both Hock and Hardacker where coke heads put the club put a lot of money to reabiliate them so making a racist jibe isnt going to get the sack!

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I agree 100% with the first 3/4 of the post
But when you start getting into shoulda woulda couldas it starts to muddy waters and creates perception that your doing x because of y etc.

The length remaining on his contract is irrelevant IMO, we should treat him the same whether he has 6months or 3 years left on the deal.

Grow up

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The club's fine is heavier than the RFL's.

I'm happy with the outcome here. As has been said before, to sack him could be harsh. He's made a mistake, granted a terrible one, and it seems that he's held his hands up. Obviously Savelio is the victim here but the club, and game as a whole could learn from this. By the very fact that a lot of people don't see any racist connotation in what he said tells us that education on these matters needs to improve.

What will education do tho? It almost falls into the realms of speed awareness courses i.e people go on the course and ultimately forget about them after a few days later. In many ways they take the course as it's soft option Vs real punishment.

Let's be realistic - if a person is racist, homophobic etc then sitting in a classroom for a couple of weeks isn't going to change their outlook on life.

One of the things I find most astonishing is that during the match, as its all kicking off and during the 'heat of the moment' Clubb came out with 'Polynesian'.

That's up there with Antipodean.

Personally think the punishment is lenient - I definitely think Clubb should have publicly apologised.

Hopefully that will be forthcoming, especially with us playing them again on Sat

Dom Manfredi will be in the 21 man squad. Not sure Lam will move the backline around in a big game just to accommodate him though.

Neither is Polynesian.

Looking at social media and talking to people there seems to be mixed views on if what he said is racist or even offensive. Things move on and change and it's not just a question of black or white. The worlds a much smaller place and people are ignorant, perhaps through no fault of their own, to what constitutes an offensive comment and what doesn't.

There's a post above this saying Polynesian isn't a race. There's some ambiguity around whether or not it is a race but I would argue that it is.

Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander