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Quote: Phuzzy "Tommy needs to be in the match day 17. We don't win the CC without him. Whether that's off the bench or starting depends on the opposition. KPP in the centres all day for me, simply because that's our weakest position. Neither Isa nor Bibby are centres. I've seen enough of both shooting out of the line to be honest. Enough is enough. Thornley is being underrated. He has been excellent for us, injuries notwithstanding. KPP and Thornley at centre when fully fit.'"


I agree with this, Tommy was having a really good season before the injury, for me I’d be looking at having him on the bench at the very least and then you have the option to rotate the halves and even one of Tommy or Cust can drop in at hooker.

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Quote: CobraCraig "Welsby is pretty quick but I don’t think he’s as fast as French, Field and Grace and he’s nowhere near their acceleration. Bibby waltzed round him in the cup semi didn’t he and he’s hardly fast? That said I think you’re right, in a 20/30/40m race he’s not the quickest but full pitch probably not that far off. I do think he had the run on Field though in the semi and Field had run further plus was carrying the ball, i don’t think he’d get close in a straight race.'"


I’m with you in terms of him not being as quick as those but he’s surprised me just how quick he actually is. I’d have thought French would get him on Saturday. Maybe French took a while to get going due to noticing LMS has played basketball in the build up!

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’m with you in terms of him not being as quick as those but he’s surprised me just how quick he actually is. I’d have thought French would get him on Saturday. Maybe French took a while to get going due to noticing LMS has played basketball in the build up!'"


Welsby had a 10yrd head start by the time French had turned around so he did well to get back and get a challenge on him

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Quote: NickyKiss "I’m with you in terms of him not being as quick as those but he’s surprised me just how quick he actually is. I’d have thought French would get him on Saturday. Maybe French took a while to get going due to noticing LMS has played basketball in the build up!'"

Not sure what you mean when you say you thought French would get him? Do you mean stop him scoring or catch him because, whilst he didn't manage the former, he most certainly did the latter.

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Quote: Phuzzy "Fair comment Stu but I disagree. Makinson is a good finisher but he's not a length of the fielder against anyone with pace. Same for Percival. Grace is really your only player with that kind of pace. More importantly though, you don't set up to play that way unlike ourselves. You play an attritional forward based game which is fair enough as that's where your advantage lies. But 'entertaining' (for all bar Saints fans) it's not. It reminds me of similar criticism Wigan got in the Madge era. Wigan fans found it extremely entertaining but for the most part opposition fans not so much. No amount of us arguing to the contrary would change that opinion as yours won't now.

I can't say for certain we would have won of course. It's just an opinion. Even with the sending off we were a couple of minutes from beating you so (along with the semi win) the point I'm making still holds.'"


Whilst everyone is saying French/Field/Grace is rapid,Welsby is fast,Makinson/Percival is pretty fast no one mentions Marshall who out paced Makinson and Percival in the semi.
So we have 3 very fast players Saints have 1,I personally would swap any of our three for any of their wingers/full back .

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Welsby got French with a nice fend at the start - that's what gave him the momentum to get away.

He's one of those players who seems to glide around the field with more time to play than most others. Didn't think he was a realistic England contender at the start of the year - now I think he has to be in the spine somewhere. Probably best to stick with the Saints pairing of him and Lomax although Wane may decide to stick with Williams if he improves his form late on in the season.

Disappointing result for Wigan when it was in our hands twice but being in the contest right till the end is all we can hope for against Saints this year. I would be very happy If the same situation is replicated in the playoffs - we're definitely not going to beat them comprehensively that's for sure. Then it will all be about who handles the pressure best in the last 15 and I'm sure both coaches will refer to these earlier games when giving the playoff team talks.

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3 game ban for Singleton.

We also have Matautia with a 1 game ban, late hit on passer.

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Quote: Stu M "Matautia with a 1 game ban, late hit on passer.'"


Should have been sent off. WE WERE ROBBED!!!!

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Also Sir James Roby charged with a high tackle but zero matches, IT'S A FIX !!!!!

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Quote: apollosghost "Also Sir James Roby charged with a high tackle but zero matches, IT'S A FIX !!!!!'"


That'll be the one Farrell cheated to win a penalty from

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And did that late hit by Matautia result in a penalty on the day

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Quote: Cherry toffee "And did that late hit by Matautia result in a penalty on the day'"


It was for a late hit on Field after he passed to French for the first try. I've seen it back and no complaints really. He's copped for a few similar type bans so needs to refine his technique.

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Fair enough I’ll take the try

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Quote: Cherry toffee "And did that late hit by Matautia result in a penalty on the day'"


Why would it ? A try was scored so advantage was played.

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And that’s why I said I’d take the try. I just couldn’t remember a penalty for a late hit

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