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| Quote 100% Warrior="100% Warrior"As I rapidly approach 30yrs old I can absolutely testify to the prolonged hangover. It takes me a good solid 3/4 days to recover mentally, physically and emotionally from a session.
God knows how I managed it when I was 18. Two weeks solid bingeing on holiday with the lads and I landed back home Saturday morning and was up King St that night.
Thankfully for me I’ve also never held a job that requires me to be in absolute peak fitness, although a decent level is required. If I was good enough to make SL level as a player all those stories of drunken escapades and solid lengthy sessions wouldn’t be a thing. Part of being a professional athlete is discipline both in and more importantly OUT of work. They’re role models, not just to the young players but the older players such as open age players. I know I based my game on Jamie Peacock.
If an 18yr old academy player saw Joel and Sam doing this up King St or another player having a set to or someone else snorting something what example does that give? What does that say to that player? It would have told me that I could do as I please as I play for Wigan.
I’ve said it before but if this culture at Wigan truly is about team and self discipline; Joel has to go especially after the two assaults caught on camera. It may seem drastic, draconian even but it send out one hell of a message to the younger players at the club.'"
I can't disagree with that at all BUT the more worrying thing for me are the posters on here who seek to excuse the behaviour (they should be able to have a drink , they are not role models,players have always done it, it is only what other people do etc etc ad nauseum, ). As professional athletes I find it shocking that during the season some (not all) players think it acceptable to over indulge to that level. |
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| Quote exiled Warrior="exiled Warrior"I can't disagree with that at all BUT the more worrying thing for me are the posters on here who seek to excuse the behaviour (they should be able to have a drink , they are not role models,players have always done it, it is only what other people do etc etc ad nauseum, ). As professional athletes I find it shocking that during the season some (not all) players think it acceptable to over indulge to that level.'"
You often have the quote "its only a short career they need to get as much money as they can",I have seen that argument used with the Sam Tomkins move. I agree with that aspect, you need to look after yourself financially but some of the players are not mature enough to realise that their career is going to be a lot shorter if they dont look after themselves. |
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| Quote exiled Warrior="exiled Warrior"I can't disagree with that at all BUT the more worrying thing for me are the posters on here who seek to excuse the behaviour (they should be able to have a drink , they are not role models,players have always done it, it is only what other people do etc etc ad nauseum, ). As professional athletes I find it shocking that during the season some (not all) players think it acceptable to over indulge to that level.'"
So do I. The "they aren't role models" one gets me as well. I can only assume those saying so have not been involved with a sports club much and witnessed how more senior players are looked up to by juniors and and younger players. Coaches encouraging their young players to emulate the senior pros if they want to succeed and so on. Totally undermines the whole ethos. |
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"So do I. The "they aren't role models" one gets me as well. I can only assume those saying so have not been involved with a sports club much and witnessed how more senior players are looked up to by juniors and and younger players. Coaches encouraging their young players to emulate the senior pros if they want to succeed and so on. Totally undermines the whole ethos.'"
50/50 on this. The role model aspect is for younger players to take the good habits and use them to improve their game but not necessarily copy their lifestyle. I played for years and one of our older, better players always turned up early for training and it was a habit I picked up. He also had a smoke at half time but it didn’t make me start smoking!
Parents / guardians should be the best role models
The old phrase springs to mind... if Joel put his hand in the fire, would you? Probably not. |
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| Quote Bigredwarrior="Bigredwarrior"50/50 on this. The role model aspect is for younger players to take the good habits and use them to improve their game but not necessarily copy their lifestyle. I played for years and one of our older, better players always turned up early for training and it was a habit I picked up. He also had a smoke at half time but it didn’t make me start smoking!
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The old phrase springs to mind... if Joel put his hand in the fire, would you? Probably not.'"
The hand in the fire or jump off a cliff quote does not really equate though.
If they did they would get burned or break a leg.
The point is that up until this video, if that was the culture then you could say well other top pros get tanked up and its not effected their careers. So that as an example of what you can do or get away with is not equivalent to putting ones hand in the fire.
Given that this has now come out, some younger players may actually learn from it that getting tanked up could be career threatening so may put more of them off doing the same. |
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Has nobody got Wigan TV? He is staying.
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| Quote Smalls="Smalls"Has nobody got Wigan TV? He is staying.'"
Which clip? I don’t see anything on there? Waney doesn’t comment in the match preview vid. |
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Pre-game interview tonight SW hinted at the club standing by JT. Whether he (SW) has any influences on how the club make decisions going forward who knows.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Pre-game interview tonight SW hinted at the club standing by JT. Whether he (SW) has any influences on how the club make decisions going forward who knows.'"
It was only two weeks ago that Wane said Winder isn’t quite ready to step up to head coach. |
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Can we not fine him another £10k before he leaves?
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Best place for him.
Have you ever been to pubs in East Hull....? JT will always come off 2nd best in any future altercations with barmaids!
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