Given Lima was banned with the MINIMUM tariff possible for two offences he pleaded GUILTY to, I think some of the conspiracy theorists need to move on.

For a start I'm not an Aussie. I would like to thank the people who have responded to my (and others') post with 'evidence' that consists of again their views on the supposed leniency of the judiciary towards other clubs. Asking me or anyone else to provide opinions as to leniency in other cases as though it is some kind of 'evidence' of anything proves the point entirely.

The main things we need from the Disciplinary are transparency (and the fact the RFL publish findings is a good thing) and consistency. The RFL should go to the stage of putting in place the NRL system of using points rather than match bans etc. After every round in the NRL, players are charged with offences which are graded and given points. They can lessen points by pleading guilty or they can go to the tribunal and risk an increase (weighed against the chances of getting off). Players then accrue points over time, so a rookie would not necessarily face the same 'sentence' as other players for the same offence. The point is, whilst it's still judgement-based, everybody knows the score, fans and players alike. There are still disputes, but far less than we get in SL.

The RFL seems to use most of this system but not the points part. I don't understand why.

www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=21043 Murphy Wins appeal...

www.superleague.co.uk/article.php?id=21043 Murphy Wins appeal...

Just rewatched the Wilkin tackle and whilst it doesn't look as bad as the first one it's still a chicken wing.

Having said that, despite not buying into the conspiracy regarding Lima's charge and ban, rewatching the game has flagged umpteen dodgy decisions at crucial areas on the field...

Lima just needs to tidy his technique up. he did not have a lot of game time last year and he is adjusting to the speed or lack of compared to the NRL.

Bring back the biff. Always good to have a bit of a fear factor in your team.

Here we go again with the "watched it from another angle"

Got sick of that with Leeds last year!

They had DVD evidence. Why didn't they watch it from all angles before making an initial decision?!

I think Wigan are doing the absolute correct thing though in not appealing. I also think that Lima should have received the 2 match ban but I have to say they need to sort out this consistency.

I will wait to see a Leeds player get cited and see what they give them to see if they've moved on or continued in the same vein as last year. Saints may look to get unfair decisions in comparison to us at times but thats the referees ignorance (Graham at the GF for example) not so much the disciplinary. They favoured Cunningham though without a doubt but thats nothing to do with Saints that was just player favouritism.

i thought it was an interesting reply about a players technique coached into him by his previous club..

Thats a decent post with some good points.
In my opinion the RFL should have a list of all possible offences and what the punishment is if your caught by the ref or on tape. If you repeat the same offence three times (or maybe four times for younger players to give them chance to learn) the punishment doubles. Every player gets this list and its made available on the RFL site for fans to view. Everybody knows the punishment for every offence then and theres no grey areas whatsoever. Balls to all this appeal crap because its pointless. Every player & team gets treated the same this way.

I think it's a fair and reasonable suspension.
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When you read that it could have been much worse. I just the same treatment is applied to all the other players who appear before the committee, so that the clubs, players and spectators can see a consistent approach.

I can't be d reading all this. Absolutely love Lenagans comments though, he's clearly sick of the bent appeals procedure and is waiting for the chance to make an outburst about it. I've got a feeling we won't have to wait too long.

Spot on.

If there's consistency across the board, no-one has a case for feeling aggrieved.

Agree mate and no sooner than its said a category c 2 game ban gets over turned!!!

Cant wait for tonights and sat nights games to pinpoint the chicken wing tackles that dont get picked up!
Wonder who Wilkin is going to tell on this week!

annoyed me this because wen ganson saw the one in his game that player hasnt got anything these rules need sorting