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| Quote: MattyB "As if they know what that feels like?
forgot about 2004 did you??
or dont you know there are other g/f's beside the s/l one
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| Quote: joanne callotte "forgot about 2004 did you??
or dont you know there are other g/f's beside the s/l one'"
yeah championship G/F is very important
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| Quote: joanne callotte "could have been in 2007 if a cetain club hadn't cheated the year before..............hmmmmmmmmm let me think who that was
Ah 'spirit of the cap again', it's a real bitch cheating isn't it - you know, NOT PAYING WAGES. Not avoiding the cap, actually not paying the bloody money to the players (it's called deferring payment, it's happened to a lot of people during bad times). Still the RFL felt it was against the spirit, as opposed to tax/NI dodges to avoid cap and image rights to avoid cap not being against the spirit at all. So we took a penalty for being over cap, although the actual salaries paid were not over it.
Now it's just another urban legend amongst other fans, like us buying players up and not playing them just to harm the competition. Still it's nice to know we're close to the hearts of so many, and seemingly occupy their thoughts more than their own club.
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| Quote: wigan_knight "Only funny thing that happened today was leigh fans trying to convince themselfs theres was positives out of that result
I can't see anyone doing that, everyone agrees we were garbage!!
Re Mort, that is disgraceful if true!!!!
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| Positive from our point of view is that we'd have lost by 20 if we'd have played with last season's team!
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| Quote: Bilko "We wern't playing Leigh Reserves last year though.'"
Don't get my point do you?
Last year a SL team played a poor team from a division below and you all cheered every score just the way we did yesterday (and the Wire did last week).
SL V Championship SL = miles ahead
SL reserves (best of) V Championship = not much in it so we had more of a right to act as though we had won a cup (it was a WI&@n team don't forget so any victory is as good as winning a cup for us Leythers )
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| Quote: Steve Ella's Beard "Ah 'spirit of the cap again', it's a real bitch cheating isn't it - you know, NOT PAYING WAGES. Not avoiding the cap, actually not paying the bloody money to the players (it's called deferring payment, it's happened to a lot of people during bad times). Still the RFL felt it was against the spirit, as opposed to tax/NI dodges to avoid cap and image rights to avoid cap not being against the spirit at all. So we took a penalty for being over cap, although the actual salaries paid were not over it.'"
So you'd be happy for Saints to say to Keiron Cunningham "you know that £150k we owe you for this year, well you're about to retire so why don't we pay you £200k over 5 years instead and use the extra £110k freed up this year to bid for Sam Tomkins."
Do you genuinely think that should be allowed under the salary cap? Effectively paying £110k over the fixed cap by deferring payments?
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| Quote: FearTheVee "So you'd be happy for Saints to say to Keiron Cunningham "you know that £150k we owe you for this year, well you're about to retire so why don't we pay you £200k over 5 years instead and use the extra £110k freed up this year to bid for Sam Tomkins."
Do you genuinely think that should be allowed under the salary cap? Effectively paying £110k over the fixed cap by deferring payments?'"
But if he has retired then you can't pay him as a player. So if Saints want to pay him as a coach for that period o.k. but once you say he is not playing you would probably then be up to your cap limit by paying another player.
Also would Cunningham accept a drop £110K drop in year one.
It's all immaterial anyway as deferred payments are NOW not allowed in the salary cap rules, which were changed after Wigans "breach of the spirit"
HTH
rlhttps://www.therfl.co.uk/about/page.php?id
It's all in there if you have time to read it.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "It's all immaterial anyway as deferred payments are NOW not allowed in the salary cap rules, which were changed after Wigans "breach of the spirit"'"
I know, I just find it amusing that some people maintain that it should have been allowed.
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| Quote: Rogues Gallery "
It's all immaterial anyway as deferred payments are NOW not allowed in the salary cap rules, which were changed after Wigans "breach of the spirit"'"
They weren't allowed previously which is why we were rightly found guilty.
They've just updated the rules to explicitly show what we did as a real example of things you can't do. There are loads of other things that aren't explicit in the rules but would mean a club was in breach.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I know, I just find it amusing that some people maintain that it should have been allowed.'"
And you know those very same people would have completely the opposite view had it been say Stains or the Dire doing what we did. Then again, the same thing would happen with some of every clubs fans had they done what we did.
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| Quote: Mother Feka "A shoddy money grabbing exercise?
What's wrong with you? Are the club beyond criticism? A shoddy money grabbing excercise was exactly what it was. And for the record, your Haiti comment was in very bad taste.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "What's wrong with you? Are the club beyond criticism? A shoddy money grabbing excercise was exactly what it was. And for the record, your Haiti comment was in very bad taste.'"
1) Did you decide to go?
2) Did you enjoy it?
1) I did.
2) I did
And I thought it was value for money.
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