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Quote: Phuzzy "I don't disagree with any of that, particularly with regards to confidence. I would mitigate it somewhat though by saying both Hurrell and Bachelor have been from average to downright awful this year so I'm not sure they're much of a loss and Whitley and Wingfield don't make it into your first team if everyone is fit. They're not dissimilar to us losing Cooper or Isa. The others are more genuine losses but then so are Field, Leeming and, particularly, O'Neil for us.

I'm not pretending it's even by any means. We're in a far better position than you because of squad depth and how we're playing. Plus we can afford to lose this game far more than Saints can.'"


I think that Isa and Cooper, if fit, would be playing on Friday. We will have at least 5 players missing from our 17 man squad. It’s only because we have a more in depth squad that nobody from outside of the Wigan camp are even talking about players missing from the 17. Wouldn’t be surprised if at least a couple of the Saints injured players make a miraculous recovery to play on Friday.
It’s a derby so I fully expect Saints to step up and give us a really hard game. It will be interesting to see how Peet covers the hooking role as I can’t see Ratchford (if he plays) playing 80 minutes so somebody else within the 17 will also have to cover the role. I’ve only seen Ratchford on Wigan TV but he looks a really exciting prospect.
Looking forward to Friday.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I don't disagree with any of that, particularly with regards to confidence. I would mitigate it somewhat though by saying both Hurrell and Bachelor have been from average to downright awful this year so I'm not sure they're much of a loss and Whitley and Wingfield don't make it into your first team if everyone is fit. They're not dissimilar to us losing Cooper or Isa. The others are more genuine losses but then so are Field, Leeming and, particularly, O'Neil for us.

I'm not pretending it's even by any means. We're in a far better position than you because of squad depth and how we're playing. Plus we can afford to lose this game far more than Saints can.'"


I think that Isa and Cooper, if fit, would be playing on Friday. We will have at least 5 players missing from our 17 man squad. It’s only because we have a more in depth squad that nobody from outside of the Wigan camp are even talking about players missing from the 17. Wouldn’t be surprised if at least a couple of the Saints injured players make a miraculous recovery to play on Friday.
It’s a derby so I fully expect Saints to step up and give us a really hard game. It will be interesting to see how Peet covers the hooking role as I can’t see Ratchford (if he plays) playing 80 minutes so somebody else within the 17 will also have to cover the role. I’ve only seen Ratchford on Wigan TV but he looks a really exciting prospect.
Looking forward to Friday.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I don't disagree with any of that, particularly with regards to confidence. I would mitigate it somewhat though by saying both Hurrell and Bachelor have been from average to downright awful this year so I'm not sure they're much of a loss and Whitley and Wingfield don't make it into your first team if everyone is fit. They're not dissimilar to us losing Cooper or Isa. The others are more genuine losses but then so are Field, Leeming and, particularly, O'Neil for us.

I'm not pretending it's even by any means. We're in a far better position than you because of squad depth and how we're playing. Plus we can afford to lose this game far more than Saints can.'"


I think that Isa and Cooper, if fit, would be playing on Friday. We will have at least 5 players missing from our 17 man squad. It’s only because we have a more in depth squad that nobody from outside of the Wigan camp are even talking about players missing from the 17. Wouldn’t be surprised if at least a couple of the Saints injured players make a miraculous recovery to play on Friday.
It’s a derby so I fully expect Saints to step up and give us a really hard game. It will be interesting to see how Peet covers the hooking role as I can’t see Ratchford (if he plays) playing 80 minutes so somebody else within the 17 will also have to cover the role. I’ve only seen Ratchford on Wigan TV but he looks a really exciting prospect.
Looking forward to Friday.

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Quote: Phuzzy "I don't disagree with any of that, particularly with regards to confidence. I would mitigate it somewhat though by saying both Hurrell and Bachelor have been from average to downright awful this year so I'm not sure they're much of a loss and Whitley and Wingfield don't make it into your first team if everyone is fit. They're not dissimilar to us losing Cooper or Isa. The others are more genuine losses but then so are Field, Leeming and, particularly, O'Neil for us.

I'm not pretending it's even by any means. We're in a far better position than you because of squad depth and how we're playing. Plus we can afford to lose this game far more than Saints can.'"


Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday

Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off

There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.

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Incidentally looks like Briers is coming to Saints after all. Matt Shaw and John Davidson now reporting. I was told this on the 9th June on a night out and laughed at the lad who told me. Looks like he was spot on.

And Saints are appealing the appeal for Mbye. Must think we have a real chance.

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Saints appealing the appeal again

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Quote: Stu M "Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday

Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off

There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.'"


Hurrell, Walmsley and Makinson are massive metre makers against us in the past. The first 2 are good for an offload too.

Other than Paasi we seem to handle the others okay.

If however is playing hooker holds up okay for us, it should be a Wigan win.

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Quote: Stu M "Incidentally looks like Briers is coming to Saints after all. Matt Shaw and John Davidson now reporting. I was told this on the 9th June on a night out and laughed at the lad who told me. Looks like he was spot on.

And Saints are appealing the appeal for Mbye. Must think we have a real chance.'"


Assistant coach I believe.

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Quote: Stu M "Looking more and more likely that Dodd has been dropped, Welsby to 6, Lomax to 7 and Robertson making his debut at FB. Huge call by Wellens and a last roll of the dice. Had he had 10-15 mins earlier in the season against the likes of London he would've been more prepared.

Now he's thrown in against the best team in the comp away from home.'"


Gotta start somewhere.

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Quote: Stu M "Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday

Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off

There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.'"


Funny things happen in rugby league, remember this?


https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2003/ ... e.sthelens
Quote: Stu M "Fair points however as much as Hurrell is a turnstile in defence, he offers an attacking threat close to the line as evidenced by his try on Good Friday

Also yes you are right in that Whitley and Wingfield would not be in a first choice 17 but they would be first choice replacements. So instead of those we are looking at Royle and Davies- a huge drop off

There is no doubt Wigan have the stronger squad and I know you are missing a few too, I just feel that our absentees will impact us much more.'"


Funny things happen in rugby league, remember this?


https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2003/ ... e.sthelens


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Quote: nidger "Saints appealing the appeal again'"


Embarrassing. I'm sure they have form with this.

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