FORUMS FORUMS



  
FORUMS > Wigan Warriors > Is Hock Still a Warrior?
270 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Jukesays "Or Tittle Tattle even?
Tickle tackle sounds better... But not with RG obviously!!!!

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner7779
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 200421 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Oct 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Wigan Peer "Tickle tackle sounds better... But not with RG obviously!!!!'"


Last week he was moaning about not finding gay men in brothels and now he wants to tickle tackle! icon_eek.gif

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner12006No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2019Oct 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Jukesays "Last week he was moaning about not finding gay men in brothels and now he wants to tickle tackle!
Well he is from St Helens *lights touch paper and runs away*

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: yickpie24 "The reason everything is all based on 'assumption' is because the club are not making any official statements on the situation. I accept they may not have all the details or want to wash their dirty laundry in public but there is clearly something going on as the whole rhetoric around Hock had him going to Parra and now Widnes. If these stories or rumors are making the national papers and virtually every other media outlet in RL then they can't be far off the mark IMO.

I would like to reiterate the points on selling merchandise and season tickets off the back of the clubs ambitions for this season made a earlier in this thread. Fans commit their hard earned cash off the back of the clubs ongoing ambitions and player recruitment/retention in the main. Our recruitment has been poor IMO and the the departure of many experienced players has left us thread bare yet SW thinks our squad looks stronger than last year?
Last season ended on a big downer - losing in two semis, all those players leaving, etc. The club showing no sign of buying in big name replacements (mainly because none were available). I'm not sure how any fan could seriously turn round and say they'd been tricked into buying a season ticket and a new shirt.

FWIW, I do agree that heads will probably roll if this season goes bellyup.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1007No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201113 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Cruncher "

FWIW, I do agree that heads will probably roll if this season goes bellyup.'"


I agree.

But "the heads should roll" depends on the guy at the top. I suspect 'he' is more interested in not losing money, than a succesfull Wigan.

RankPostsTeam
International Star77No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2015Nov 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Cruncher "Last season ended on a big downer - losing in two semis, all those players leaving, etc. The club showing no sign of buying in big name replacements (mainly because none were available). I'm not sure how any fan could seriously turn round and say they'd been tricked into buying a season ticket and a new shirt.

FWIW, I do agree that heads will probably roll if this season goes bellyup.'"


Even though I made the point about ST's and merchandise being sold off Hock's back I don't believe the vast majority were fooled.

It was more a whinge about lack of communication from the club on the matter and that by not releasing any info they stood to gain from his presence.

Well they do communicate a lot, just usually with a load of piffle. "Paul Prescott's off-season hijinks now on warriors tv" Thanks.

And in terms of mickey taking from followers of lesser clubs... I made the assertion that Hock was going to stay at Wigan and he'd walk into any NRL club a few weeks ago.

Widnes...

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach15259No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 200619 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: sybutwhy? "Even though I made the point about ST's and merchandise being sold off Hock's back I don't believe the vast majority were fooled.

It was more a whinge about lack of communication from the club on the matter and that by not releasing any info they stood to gain from his presence.

Well they do communicate a lot, just usually with a load of piffle. "Paul Prescott's off-season hijinks now on warriors tv" Thanks.
'"


How do you know that all this stuff was going on with Hock before Christmas?

Why are you assuming that the club are the ones at fault when the guy they're allegedly in dispute with is a well-known headcase and trouble-maker with a long record of total stupidity?

And like it or not, Wigan are not going to give you the ins and outs of their disputes with players - whether it be over contract negotiations, disciplinary matters, or what - not until it's all sorted. They never have and never will. And I doubt any other club would.

RankPostsTeam
Moderator14395No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Dec 200123 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2024May 2022LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED

Moderator


Quote: Wigan Peer "Main thing is, how can you "comment" if you don't have any answers?.. You are assuming that all the answers are there, how do you know they are? Everything you say is assumption assumption assumption. '"


I don't know what you are on about. There is something going on re Hock or are you saying there isn't? What that is are rumours, not assumptions.

Quote: Wigan Peer "I would expect there to be unrest in any and every squad, we can all assume that others would looking to improve their careers too, but the club don't owe us anything in the way of statements if they have nothing to state. We can all assume of course, and i'm sure there are some problems between Hock and the club, but his record for trouble has not been the best has it? Whether its a clash with Wane, who can say. My only concern is that this is not affecting the morale of the squad, i don't give a diddly squat what i know, i'm not that important as an individual.'"


The club doesn't owe its paying customers anything? Of course it does. All businesses and pro sports club owe their customers quite a lot. Treat them as insignificant individuals and they will start to lose them. It's good business sense to have a good relationship with your customers. Wigan probably benefits form a lot of people who view the world through cherry n white specs but it can't bank on that always working to keep the fans on-side and shelling out money.

RankPostsTeam
International Star1789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Cruncher "How do you know that all this stuff was going on with Hock before Christmas?

Why are you assuming that the club are the ones at fault when the guy they're allegedly in dispute with is a well-known headcase and trouble-maker with a long record of total stupidity?

And like it or not, Wigan are not going to give you the ins and outs of their disputes with players - whether it be over contract negotiations, disciplinary matters, or what - not until it's all sorted. They never have and never will. And I doubt any other club would.'"


Get in touch with Manley, whispers going round that Jamie Lyon is looking for a release from the last 12 months of his contract and he has always said that he enjoyed his spell in the UK.
Some sort of swap deal perhaps, the problem is Wigan would proberbly still let Hock go to Widnes and at the same time swap Sam.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5846
JoinedServiceReputation
Aug 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2024Jul 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: DaveO "Snip.'"


"Cherry and white tinted specs......." The last argument for people who believe they are the only ones to have a valid point and others are blinded by ignorance. Don't be so patronizing!! Your "assumption" is that the club have something to tell you, and are somehow honour bound to tell you!! As has been mentioned elsewhere, whatever has been going on, legal obligations twixt employer and employee have to be observed. Just because you and some others don't know what the facts of the matter are, you feel aggrieved. If you so desperately feel you need to know all the machinations of the club, feel free to become a board member, this should salve your delicate sensibilities about feeling "out of the loop".

PS, is it possible to change the spell check from US to proper English?

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner6722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Rogues Gallery "Ah the "good old days"
Yeah mainly at the shower of ***** on the pitch. (Fairburn excepted, and I suppose you could include Danny Campbell and Nicky Kiss (at a push) in there too- though given his game was stealing the ball in the tackle and striking at scrums, he would probably be kept out of current teams..)

RankPostsTeam
Club Owner6722No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200321 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2015Mar 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Cruncher "Last season ended on a big downer - losing in two semis, all those players leaving, etc. The club showing no sign of buying in big name replacements (mainly because none were available). I'm not sure how any fan could seriously turn round and say they'd been tricked into buying a season ticket and a new shirt.

FWIW, I do agree that heads will probably roll if this season goes bellyup.'"


Absolutely.

RankPostsTeam
Club Coach3053No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200420 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
May 2017May 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: stillinthepast "Get in touch with Manley, whispers going round that Jamie Lyon is looking for a release from the last 12 months of his contract and he has always said that he enjoyed his spell in the UK.
Some sort of swap deal perhaps, the problem is Wigan would proberbly still let Hock go to Widnes and at the same time swap Sam.'"



Just signed a four year deal worth nearly three million dollars, didn't he?

RankPostsTeam
International Star1789No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jan 201114 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2017Feb 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: Smooth Stu "Just signed a four year deal worth nearly three million dollars, didn't he?'"


I have still seen it mentioned from an Aussie scource that he wants out , quoting he prefers the Titans at present but still says that he hopes to come back to SL at some poinnt.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach5507No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 200519 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2017Nov 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
TO BE FIXED



Quote: stillinthepast "I have still seen it mentioned from an Aussie scource that he wants out , quoting he prefers the Titans at present but still says that he hopes to come back to SL at some poinnt.'"

Given he's about to turn 31, if he signs that contract with the Titans I doubt he'll be going anywhere after that.

270 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps
270 posts in 19 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
Subscribe | Moderators: Admin, DaveO , Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy , Pemps



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


7.63720703125:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
10m
Salford
Uncle Rico
50
12m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
14m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
17m
Salford placed in special measures
FIL
106
27m
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
32m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
37m
Film game
Boss Hog
5730
39m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
40m
Pre Season - 2025
Irregs#16
188
42m
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
34s
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
The Dentist
4037
35s
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40785
36s
Salford
Uncle Rico
50
1m
Its all gone a bit quiet
Victor
25
2m
IMG Score
Bull Mania
83
2m
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
MjM
21
2m
Planning for next season
Bent&Bon
184
2m
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
chapylad
2607
2m
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
3m
2025 Recruitment
Rattler13
204
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
Salary Cap Changes Blocked - 11 votes to 1
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Fixtures 2025
Bull Mania
4
TODAY
Spirit of the Rhinos
Jack Burton
4
TODAY
Mike Ogunwole
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Bailey Dawson
Wanderer
1
TODAY
2024
REDWHITEANDB
14
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Trojan Horse
36
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
Bent&Bon
6
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
Uncle Rico
50
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
FIL
50
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
1027
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
634
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1359
England's Women Demolish The W..
1185
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1426
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1209
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1470
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
2007
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2214
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2457
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
2023
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2263
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2731
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2155
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2233