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Quote: sergeant pepper "At the end of the day there is the simple fact that we are now weaker in a number of key positions compared to last season and the season before that.

The reasons for this + the rights and wrongs regarding it have been discussed to death but simply put if you continue to lose top draw players and replace them with less talented individuals then your going to experience a dip.

We are now weaker @ Centre, Scrum Half, 2nd row and arguably, with the loss of Lima, Prop as well.

Add on top of the above we moved backwards at hooker when Piggy left and Tomkins is probably in his last season means there has and continues to be a systematic decline in the standard of players at WRLFC.

I don't claim to know how to fix it or also claim to be any more astute than IL but i do know that the above decline is glaring obvious and that's it's worrying/upsetting a lot of Wigan fans.'"
It seems a far cry for IL calling for a new Wigan dynasty after we won the super league.

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Quote: sergeant pepper "At the end of the day there is the simple fact that we are now weaker in a number of key positions compared to last season and the season before that.



We are now weaker @ Centre, Scrum Half, 2nd row and arguably, with the loss of Lima, Prop as well..'"


With Leuluai out for two months and Finch hobbling his way through the playoffs we are in a better scrum half position right now! Although when they clicked they really did click.

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We in my opinion really need to recruit some quality. We need to bring in the right type of player and I expect we will only find them in the NRL.

Players will become available but not yet, so I think we will need to be patient and hope for a mid season addition at best.

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Quote: sybutwhy? "With Leuluai out for two months and Finch hobbling his way through the playoffs we are in a better scrum half position right now! Although when they clicked they really did click.'"


We've lost the best #7 in the comp who had an excellent injury record during his time at the club.

It's not all doom and gloom however as i do rate Green and think he'll bring a tough running game that we've needed for a while. He will fit in well with Sam as he's another strike player and we needed more of this type of threat last season.

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I think this should be renamed the Rumours Signings and Departures thread.

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Quote: jonh "We in my opinion really need to recruit some quality. We need to bring in the right type of player and I expect we will only find them in the NRL.

Players will become available but not yet, so I think we will need to be patient and hope for a mid season addition at best.'"



The days of signing top class from the NRL are long gone. Unless the cap is scrapped or doubled we will continue to slip towards a semi pro game

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Quote: jonh "We in my opinion really need to recruit some quality. We need to bring in the right type of player and I expect we will only find them in the NRL.

Players will become available but not yet, so I think we will need to be patient and hope for a mid season addition at best.'"

Didn't IL recently state that he would no longer make signings from the NRL?

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If IFL said he would no longer sign players from the NRL then we have the wrong man in charge of our club. Thankfully I doubt he ever said that and thus would no longer worry should the right player become available that we would not try to sign him because he plays in the best Rugby Comp in the world.

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Quote: jonh "If IFL said he would no longer sign players from the NRL then we have the wrong man in charge of our club. Thankfully I doubt he ever said that and thus would no longer worry should the right player become available that we would not try to sign him because he plays in the best Rugby Comp in the world.'"


Agreed, however I think it's more a case of; we can no longer sign decent players from the NRL due to salary cap increase etc.

Total shame really, people talk about a 'Wigan team full of Wiganers' which on paper sounds good when in reality all of our best teams over the years featured players from Auz and NZ, not just Wiganers.
Over the years so much has been learnt from overseas competitors, pity if that's a thing of the past.

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forget top NRL players coming to superleague, their new proposed cap of AUS $5.7m for 2013 which equates to an average of £151,000 per player for a 25 man squad compared to £66,000 per player in SL......... Just goes to show how far we are behind in promoting the game in the UK and how it is perceived by the general public at large

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We need a nasty Prop. Our pack lacks some serious grunt. Mossop is our senior Prop. We need hard yards. Don't think we have it in the squad now.

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Quote: jonh "If IFL said he would no longer sign players from the NRL then we have the wrong man in charge of our club. Thankfully I doubt he ever said that and thus would no longer worry should the right player become available that we would not try to sign him because he plays in the best Rugby Comp in the world.'"

Here's the rlarticlerl I was thinking of. To be fair he says he'll still look to sign one or two NRL players if the price is right

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Quote: pie.warrior "forget top NRL players coming to superleague, their new proposed cap of AUS $5.7m for 2013 which equates to an average of £151,000 per player for a 25 man squad compared to £66,000 per player in SL......... Just goes to show how far we are behind in promoting the game in the UK and how it is perceived by the general public at large'"


If you pay peanuts you get monkey's. I said this years ago when the sport as a whole went full time. It was obvious to me back then if the sport wanted players to stop being semi-pro and earning a wage outside the game it was going to cost the clubs a lot more money in wages to compensate. The fact the sport in the UK is in no position to keep pace with the wage inflation that is part and parcel of professional sport in all its various guises does, as you say, show how far behind we are at promoting the game. It hasn't even kept pace with RPI and wages in general never mind wages in other sports.

The only reason the NRL can up the cap is due to external funds flowing in from TV rights etc, not because they put a few more thousand on the gates. It's the same with RU. The multi- million pound deal they signed with BT Vision is allowing them to pay their players even more.

If you listened to IL on Wigan TV and on GMR recently he says the RFL are moving in the right direction in bringing in revenue to the game and disbursing funds to clubs. It needs to do a lot more of that so we move away from almost taking pride in paying players a relative pittance as professional athletes.

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Quote: jonh "We need a nasty Prop. Our pack lacks some serious grunt. Mossop is our senior Prop. We need hard yards. Don't think we have it in the squad now.'"


My best mate is a current Wire prop and after the game on Saturday he said we are a good team but most teams this year will just steam roll our pack cause weve no agression.

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