Better to look stupid than be stupid hey Nath?

Are you also calling me a liar Nath?
Didn’t KR state one of the reasons for change was the cost of production?
I know that to be factual.

You obviously didn’t consider the A&L to be iconic or worth preserving. Far do’s. I tend to disagree. Is that alright with you or am I too stupid to understand anything?

In the last 20 odd years we’ve changed grounds, changed our name and forgone our badge so why is incomprehensible to consider changing our colours? What’s left to change?
If that concept or thought is beyond your capabilities then far do’s.

By the way I thought you’d have been fully supportive of the all pink colours for home and away.

I also don’t know if it’s difficult and costly to produce but it looks quite intricate and more importantly it’s iconic. If it is expensive to reproduce do honestly think the All Blacks would replace it? Obviously IL didn’t think the A&L was iconic. It’s his club so he can do whatever he wants to do but it still doesn’t make it right.
I have no problem with change but thought the change of the club badge was ill conceived and the end product jaw droppingly awful.

The battle to save the A&E never started and is lost. I understand that but I get a little peeved when people can’t accept or understand that some fans never wanted it displaced and will forever yearn for it’s return.

My argument principally is that if you accept that change then why not also accept that other fundamental changes can and will come along I.e. change of colours. How iconic with young fans is the cherry and white? We never have the same colours in consecutive years let alone as irreplaceable so why not in the future dump the cherry and whites?
I associate the A&E as strongly as the cherry and whites with club. The club talks a good talk about heritage but sometimes the duplicity is embarrassing.

On that link above the official site does state:




Good news.

The club explained very clearly why they did the change, I don’t get how you don’t understand? Also why was it handled poorly.

I wish we still had the old badge but once it was explained it made sense to me. Bought a training top and bobble hat last year

We used to be called Wigan Wasps and play in navy blue. Why aren't you wanting us to revert to that? Life moves on.

I’m in the ‘not bothered in the slightest camp’ but I’m sure the club would do one or two things differently given their time again. The main one being how it was leaked via the new badge appearing on companies house (iirc). I think they also could’ve got more fans involved with the process but that may have caused more problems than it would’ve solved.

Why would I want us to play rugby union on a muddy field in Upper Dicconson Street?

So you’d be happy with changing colours?

I'm genuinely not that bothered what they are wearing to be honest as long as they're playing entertaining rugby. I've seen Wigan teams do that whilst wearing black, blue, yellow, luminous green!

No problem with that whatsoever.
I agree with entertaining part but personally I’d love us to refrain from wearing other colours unless there is a clash of colours which are very few and far between.

I think we miss out on not using the cherry and white even more on the marketing front.

Whilst I understand people not being a fan of changing our crest, the reasons have been explained over and over. There's no reason to change club colours but there was a reason to change the badge.

That being said, I really don't mind the change of shirt style every 3/4 years. It probably generates a bit more business for the club. If not was just cherry and white hoops every year some people would possibly keep their shirts for 2/3 years rather than buying new merchandise every season.

I don’t think that bothers clubs like say Celtic keeping to green and white hoops. Have Celtic ever had a season in living memory where didn’t play in green and white hoops?

I used club colours to illustrate that all fans have their own rubicon.
For some it was the badge.
For others it’s the colours.
Some fans may not give a fishes tit about any of that if the club wins honours consistently.

I just reacted to a snide comment that was posted about people still feeling sore about the change in the badge. It just makes me sad that in a few years the A&E won’t mean anything to the vast majority of fans.

One good thing about the new badge (even that monstrosity has one ) is that it will be difficult to actually change the shade of cherry within the shirt colours which for me is a good outcome.

This.

In recent years where the club has tried to make money from shirt sales with different designs it has come at a cost of watering down our world famous shirt. The All Blacks shirt is instantly recognisable, as is the Australian RL, Brazil football, Northampton RU, Leicester RU, Celtic FC, Barcelona.

We need to wear traditional cherry and white hoops at every opportunity unless there is a kit clash then wear a blue version, its as simple as that. That way our brand, our club becomes instantly recognisable again regardless of the badge on the shirt.