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| Quote hengirl="hengirl"That Smith gets such a free ride from some worries me,he’s gone backwards at a rate of knots and in his current form shouldn’t have been anywhere near the first team I’d be is the teams attacking force next year then Wigan are in big trouble'" Richardson at Cas plays better than him and that is saying something at least he is a good goal kicker.
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International Chairman | 5392 | Wakefield Trinity |
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| Quote jonh="jonh"His play.
…more specificity his lack of game control, his error rate, his shocking passing, the fact he always loses contact and his terrible kicking game/decision making.'"
But it ignores the stuff he does do well.
I'm not saying he's our next top HB, but if someone asked who'd been worse this year I'd be naming guys like both Leigh HB's, Kev Brown, Richardson and even Sneyd.
I just can't see how you can say that a 21 year old kid has been the worst HB this season.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"But it ignores the stuff he does do well.
I'm not saying he's our next top HB, but if someone asked who'd been worse this year I'd be naming guys like both Leigh HB's, Kev Brown, Richardson and even Sneyd.
I just can't see how you can say that a 21 year old kid has been the worst HB this season.'"
I’d take all of them over Smith..
Does him being 21 give him some kind of exemption from performing poorly?
What am I ignoring that he does well?
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I’d take all of them over Smith..
Does him being 21 give him some kind of exemption from performing poorly?
What am I ignoring that he does well?'"
No it doesn't. It does however make you put it into context and not write him the rest of his career off.
What does he do well Vs the others? He's got more assists, more attacking kicks and clean breaks.
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| Quote sergeant pepper="sergeant pepper"No it doesn't. It does however make you put it into context and not write him the rest of his career off.
What does he do well Vs the others? He's got more assists, more attacking kicks and clean breaks.'"
No…what does he do well? That is the question.
I will wait.
Best thing I’ve seen him do this year is nearly get a 40-20 in the first 10 minutes today and shorty after he took the line on.
After that his kicking was awful, got dominated in contact, passing shocking etc etc etc last tackle plays embarrassing.
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Player Coach | 3078 | Wigan Warriors |
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| It's coming to something when you wished you been on a night shift, truly awful, yep, thank god it's over
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| Ponderous, clueless and rudderless just about sums it up. Just no oomph! Plenty of endeavour but that on its own doesn't win you many matches.
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| Not winning I can live with. More years than not we don't win the Grand Final, but this year is more serious because I've not been entertained either. That is a lot more serious because I firmly believe that it what drives fans away. I've been at many games in all three pro/semi-pro divisions this year and have yet to find a team less exciting to watch than Wigan. I was on a free ticket tonight and still felt short changed.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Not winning I can live with. More years than not we don't win the Grand Final, but this year is more serious because I've not been entertained either. That is a lot more serious because I firmly believe that it what drives fans away. I've been at many games in all three pro/semi-pro divisions this year and have yet to find a team less exciting to watch than Wigan. I was on a free ticket tonight and still felt short changed.'"
I thought the first half was brilliant. Really enjoyed it.
Game was on a knife edge and both teams going toe to toe.
Second half dire. Both teams played not to lose neither wanted to go for the win. One of the worst halves of rugby I’ve ever seen.
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| Quote jonh="jonh"I thought the first half was brilliant. Really enjoyed it.
Game was on a knife edge and both teams going toe to toe.
Second half dire. Both teams played not to lose neither wanted to go for the win. One of the worst halves of rugby I’ve ever seen.'"
Fair enough, I respect your opinion but I just never thought either team looked like scoring even in the first half. I felt like we were as toothless as we were all year, strong in defence and lucky that they had a hooker at halfback which meant they lacked guile too.
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Fair enough, I respect your opinion but I just never thought either team looked like scoring even in the first half. I felt like we were as toothless as we were all year, strong in defence and lucky that they had a hooker at halfback which meant they lacked guile too.'"
I though the first half we were on top in a real battle and the second half we should have kicked on and dominated as we laid the platform.
Leeds first set in the second half set the tone for them to pick up the win.
Ran hard and with enthusiasm in the carries.
That’s when I knew we were in bother, I did expect some resistance though not just 5 drives and a kick.
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Club Coach | 29962 | Wigan Warriors |
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| Quote Grimmy="Grimmy"Not winning I can live with. More years than not we don't win the Grand Final, but this year is more serious because I've not been entertained either. That is a lot more serious because I firmly believe that it what drives fans away. I've been at many games in all three pro/semi-pro divisions this year and have yet to find a team less exciting to watch than Wigan. I was on a free ticket tonight and still felt short changed.'"
I’m genuinely struggling to think of a team I’ve seen with less idea in attack than this Wigan team. If I were Lam I’d look for a new career after this season because whilst the squad isn’t perfect, it’s been an absolute embarrassment the attack and the loss of French totally found Lams lack of ideas out. I’m not sure what Lam is but he isn’t a rugby league coach. He certainly won’t get a head coaches job anywhere again but in truth I’m not sure who would employ him in any role after this spell. I could be assistant coach for the Aussie national team and any other jobs he gets must be because he’s a good lad on a night out.
Every time I hear the phrase ‘a great player doesn’t make a great manager/coach’ in any sport, I’ll have Adrian Lams face on the big screen (when the ref give the penalty for 8-0 tonight) in my mind and I will punch the nearest object. We’ll not have to worry about a great player becoming a poor coach next year because Matty Peet was cack. If he goes all Mourinho on us and becomes a great coach it’ll be happy days.
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