Graham Lowe was the best coach Wigan have ever had in my view. His victory over Manly was a titanic effort, and should immortalise him as a Wigan great on its own.

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What are the first three words of the post?

He did slightly more than drop a goal, but that would happen in most sports. Andy Murray, Lewis Hamilton. I mean Hamilton just drives round in a car that is faster than everyone elses. Be like Usain Bolt celebrating beating Tony Clubb in a race.

Do you not think the player who scores the winning goal for England in a WC would be a hero?

Sadly, as nobody gives a about RL anymore the same probably wouldn't happen with us.

Graham Lowe revolutionised Wigan and the British game
In 6 months he moved Wigan forward 10 years.
He was a very emotional guy who still had a bit of the old style coaching about him (mixed on with the obvious advance australian methods) and there numerous fall outs (not that i blame him for them) with the big names.

Well never k ownif Monie could have done again Lowe did (or vice versa) but I believe Monie just has the edge as he built on what Lowe did, but as a man manager he was superior for me.

I always looked at it like this
For a one off game I would take Lowe
For a multiple year stint id have taken Monie

Would you say that Wane was more like Lowe?

I used to think that, but now I see him as more in-between the 2
From what I've heard from people in the dressing room, and then through a quirk of luck ending up sitting next to him through a whole Wigan game, he isn't as fiery as most people expect.

And from speaking to people who have worked with him, I think a lot of people underestimate the work he did from the bottom of the club upwards. I think he's a great man manager as well.

A mate of mine (ex professional who played at a high club level) has a brother in law who is involved in the coaching of a national sporting organisation. They were looking to improve and asked around other sporting organisations and were told to go and speak to the British cycling team for example amongst others and when they approached the RFL they ended up spending 2 weeks with wigan (this was about 3 years ago).
They couldn't speak highly enough of Wigan RLFC and in particular Wane. He said the structure from the youth scouting, mentoring, education and then pathways through to the academy/reserves/1st team was as good as anything they'd seen.

That reinforced everything that I'd been told about the club and Wane.

Wane IMO will never get the credit he deserves from a lot of quarters, but he would be up there in the conversation when talking about best Wigan coaches

I've always felt - and there's no science behind this, it's just a suspicion - that Shaun Wane suffered from the unfixable problem of not having an Australian accent. It's been so long since the British game has seen a revolutionary coach who was actually British that a lot of fans, perhaps unconsciously, seem to assume it will never happen again.

I'm not saying that Shaun was revolutionary, by the way, just that he was very good, very successful, and yet weirdly underappreciated in his time.

His record speaks for itself. Certainly my annoyance with him, was the "up and down" of our levels of performance during the normal season.

2013 we quite clearly put the cue on the rack after what had happened in 2012 but it shows no respect the fans that still paid each week. That happened throughout his reign.

You can also argue that up until the playoffs we were pretty dull to watch so why should fans pay their money to watch until then?

The fact is though, we won trophies and that is what matters. I would take dull rugby and success above a Cas 2017 or Saints 2018 season every time.

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Up until the 2016 season (around roughly when Deacon/Harris left) we played very good rugby under Wane. After that we was often very dull to watch until the playoffs however he won us 3 trophies in his last 3 consecutive years so ultimately his duller style worked. he was very unlucky in the 2016/2017 season to have so many injured players every week and still put up some very good results including a world club challenge win and grand final win. I can only imagine if he was in charge of this current crop, we’d clean up every week

The ones who were old enough at the time do!

Sorry, Grimmy, for missing the first three words in my haste to reply.

Will look more closely in future if only to prevent the smart a***s being sarcastic or acting like children!