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| Quote: NickyKiss "I thought Byrne was superb on Sunday and it’s probably just reward for him to start the game. I get what you’re saying but if felt the issues in the early rounds were more down to having kids starting alongside ten minute Tony and then kids coming off the bench. I’d probably ease Flower and Burgess back in, so it would be Bullock or Byrne for that last starting spot. I thought Bullock made a couple of errors on Sunday, with a knock on which lead to a penalty and him sleeping for their try. He’s a cracking player Bullock and we need him in the side but I’d like to see them give Byrne that reward of starting.'"
I think the slow starts are still an issue despite the good win on Sunday. Clubb being out, if that's the case, could help with this but I do think it's noticeable how much better we are when the likes of Burgess, Bullock and Clark come on. I guess you could argue that, as a tactic, it's working fine but I wouldn't necessarily relish going into Good Friday with that as a game plan. I feel we need to offer a bit more go forward in the early stages of games and I'm not sure a Byrne/Partington combination is the best one to achieve this. Partington's 'dancing feet' try at the weekend still points to him being more than just a battering ram. I also thought he passed at the line a la Lockers a bit more too which was good to see.
I'm not saying it wouldn't work for the Hull KR game but I'm not so sure we wouldn't be better utilising the, on paper, easier games to prepare for the sterner tests to come.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "I think the slow starts are still an issue despite the good win on Sunday. Clubb being out, if that's the case, could help with this but I do think it's noticeable how much better we are when the likes of Burgess, Bullock and Clark come on. I guess you could argue that, as a tactic, it's working fine but I wouldn't necessarily relish going into Good Friday with that as a game plan. I feel we need to offer a bit more go forward in the early stages of games and I'm not sure a Byrne/Partington combination is the best one to achieve this. Partington's 'dancing feet' try at the weekend still points to him being more than just a battering ram. I also thought he passed at the line a la Lockers a bit more too which was good to see.
I'm not saying it wouldn't work for the Hull KR game but I'm not so sure we wouldn't be better utilising the, on paper, easier games to prepare for the sterner tests to come.'"
Horses for courses for me. I fully agree that going in to Good Friday I wouldn’t be starting with Partington and Byrne but circumstances dictate that selection at the minute IMO. I don’t think Flower will be right to start, George Burgess is probably better served playing from the bench for a couple more weeks and that would leave me with a choice of who warrants a starting shirt more out of Bullock and Byrne from Sunday and Byrne was comfortably the better performer on the day.
Going forward I’d want us to hopefully work towards getting George Burgess ready to start on Good Friday. We can’t afford to start that game back peddling against Thompson and Walmsley and I fear that is what we’ll be doing unless we throw something back at them from the off. It’s nice to have some options regardless and to be able to think about how we can build in to that game.
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| Very true. Nice to have options as you say. I think Lam would prefer to start with at least one senior prop but I'm sure the young lads will do a job if selected.
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| If we lose the forward battle v Saints on Good Friday we’ll be looking at a 16 point plus loss. We must start with our strongest, most experienced props which means Burgess and Flower/Clarke with Bullock, Bryne and Oli off the bench. Clubb hasn’t been anywhere near good enough and will be a hinderance v Saints. He alone could be the difference between a narrow win or a huge loss.
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| Quote: Phuzzy "So the Mrs tells me..
Funny that, she says exactly the same to me
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| Quote: Sweaty Betty's "Funny that, she says exactly the same to me
To be fair, in or out, it's hard to tell with you though..
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| Quote: Pie Eyed "Apart from the fact that it takes almost an entire day from your weekend (at least productively)?
You have time to get up, get something to eat and maybe do a little bit of something before heading out between 12-1
Friday Nights game are alright for those who do not work but if supporters want to have a proper match experience, Sunday Afternoons with a standard 3.00pm kick off are far better as supporters who do work can travel more, go for a meal or just go to pubs which all help to create a better atmosphere before, during and even after a game. For many, Friday Nights means rushing about for a home game, and having to have a day off off work or swap shifts to travel for a away game.
In all the years I have watched the game, going to a game on a Sunday Afternoon was far more important and a better experience than than Friday Night and many of the excuses we now see from some supporters especially about kids going to school. If you want to do jobs at home or go to somewhere else for a day out with the family, whats wrong with Saturday unless of course that is reserved for Town Centre Shopping or Supermarket day.
Most Football matches are played on a Saturday Afternoon and I know many football supporters who are fed up of games being switched from the traditional Saturday Afternoon with a 3.00pm kick off to other days and times to suit television.
All Super League games with the exception of those on television should be played on a Sunday Afternoon with a standard 3.00pm kick off, especially now with the traffic problems of going over the M62 in the Friday Night rush hour which has led to less away supporters travelling each way over the Pennines and lower crowds.
The problem today is that the sport is no longer about the supporters, but more about television, sponsorship, corporate dining and shopping.
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "Friday Nights game are alright for those who do not work but if supporters want to have a proper match experience, Sunday Afternoons with a standard 3.00pm kick off are far better as supporters who do work can travel more, go for a meal or just go to pubs which all help to create a better atmosphere before, during and even after a game. For many, Friday Nights means rushing about for a home game, and having to have a day off off work or swap shifts to travel for a away game.
In all the years I have watched the game, going to a game on a Sunday Afternoon was far more important and a better experience than than Friday Night and many of the excuses we now see from some supporters especially about kids going to school. If you want to do jobs at home or go to somewhere else for a day out with the family, whats wrong with Saturday unless of course that is reserved for Town Centre Shopping or Supermarket day.
Most Football matches are played on a Saturday Afternoon and I know many football supporters who are fed up of games being switched from the traditional Saturday Afternoon with a 3.00pm kick off to other days and times to suit television.
All Super League games with the exception of those on television should be played on a Sunday Afternoon with a standard 3.00pm kick off, especially now with the traffic problems of going over the M62 in the Friday Night rush hour which has led to less away supporters travelling each way over the Pennines and lower crowds.
The problem today is that the sport is no longer about the supporters, but more about television, sponsorship, corporate dining and shopping.'"
Wasn’t the match day/times put to the supporters a few years ago and Friday evenings won hands down?
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| Quote: hatty "Wasn’t the match day/times put to the supporters a few years ago and Friday evenings won hands down?'"
Yes and as I said on another thread crowds on Sundays are always much lower than Fridays.
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| Quote: Egg Chasing "Yes and as I said on another thread crowds on Sundays are always much lower than Fridays.'"
Only proving that supporters are now using our games as a fill in on a Weekend and not as a day out experience on the Weekend day like Saturday like they do in Football and Rugby Union.
How many now travel over the Pennines on a Friday Night in each direction to boost crowds at our grounds compared to the number that use to do when all games were played on a Sunday before Sky came on the scene.
Friday Nights may suit home supporters, especially those with no work commitments, but they are doing nothing for those who do work or way support with the exception of local games involving St Helens, Warrington and Wigan on our side of the Pennines or local games between Castleford, Leeds and Wakefield in West Yorkshire or Hull FC and Hull KR on Humberside.
Three younger members of my family have stopped supporting the club as a result of Friday Night games interfering with their work commitments.
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "Only proving that supporters are now using our games as a fill in on a Weekend and not as a day out experience on the Weekend day like Saturday like they do in Football and Rugby Union.
How many now travel over the Pennines on a Friday Night in each direction to boost crowds at our grounds compared to the number that use to do when all games were played on a Sunday before Sky came on the scene.
Friday Nights may suit home supporters, especially those with no work commitments, but they are doing nothing for those who do work or way support with the exception of local games involving St Helens, Warrington and Wigan on our side of the Pennines or local games between Castleford, Leeds and Wakefield in West Yorkshire or Hull FC and Hull KR on Humberside.
Three younger members of my family have stopped supporting the club as a result of Friday Night games interfering with their work commitments with one of them now supporting a football club (not the Latics) so that he can experience the match day atmosphere of both home and away games on a Weekend.
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| Well, they'd lose one season ticket sale here if they went to Sundays and I'm sure I wouldn't be the only one. I can manage a few Sundays in a season but very often need to write games off. I don't mind for the occasional game but it's simply uneconomical to do it for more than a couple.
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| But according to ruddy duck would gain thousands
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| Quote: Ruddy Duck "Friday Nights game are alright for those who do not work...
...If you want to do jobs at home or go to somewhere else for a day out with the family, whats wrong with Saturday unless of course that is reserved for Town Centre Shopping or Supermarket day...
...All Super League games with the exception of those on television should be played on a Sunday Afternoon with a standard 3.00pm kick off, especially now with the traffic problems of going over the M62 in the Friday Night rush hour which has led to less away supporters travelling each way over the Pennines and lower crowds.
The problem today is that the sport is no longer about the supporters, but more about television, sponsorship, corporate dining and shopping.'"
That's the thing - Saturday = Doing stuff that NEEDS to be done every week (shopping, etc.). Sunday is the day to do things that we WANT to do (whether that be working on the house or going out).
There is a reason that the only fan-survey that I know of threw out Friday night as the best time to play games.
(If there was a more recent one, it was not very well advertised).
And as for "alright for those who do not work" - Garbage.
I work until 5:30 or 6pm most days and still make the match just fine.
If it's away at Hull, etc. then I just finish a little early by starting an hour earlier.
Friday night travel = lower crowds... Nope. Sundays (apart from Wakey and Cas, where it is still traditional) get lower attendances across the board.
And as for television, etc. - That only affects the Thursday games (which I personally hate).
Right now, it feels like IFL trying to get more people to hang around in the fan-zone before and after the game, to get a bit more money in, by using Sundays to allow a bit more time.
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