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| Quote moto748="moto748"Also, on goal-kicking, as we seem to have several candidates, all of them not great at the moment, why don't we use a left-footed kicker from the right touchline (Marshall?) and a right-footed kicker (Williams?) from the left? Never understood why this is not more widespread.'"
 How I long for the Days of Henderson Gill & David Stephenson!
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| Quote CobraCraig="CobraCraig"I agree,we haven't lost many games due to kicks.'"
One problem of having no kicker is our ability to control the scoreboard. Being unable to take shots at goal means that our scoring is restricted and it also means that we cannot influence the other teams game plan. By that I mean that we leave ourselves more open to drop goals whilst being forced to outscore the opponent in tries by 4 to 3. Last year or game plan was often based on pushing a lead past a converted score.
Sometimes I am nostalgic for three substitutions and a goal kicking prop forward.
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| Marshall is right footed and a couple of his kicks on Saturday looked awful technique wise,I was actually suprised they travelled the distance they did.
We don't have one component kicker at the moment so to have a right footed and left footed one to alternate that are equally as good is unlikely. Just give the responsibility to one of em and go with them,we did the same with Matty Smith,I'm sure Williams can reach a similar standard.
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| Quote Levrier="Levrier"... and a goal kicking prop forward.'"
Where is Neil Cowie these days?
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| Quote CobraCraig="CobraCraig"Marshall is right footed and a couple of his kicks on Saturday looked awful technique wise,I was actually suprised they travelled the distance they did.
We don't have one component kicker at the moment so to have a right footed and left footed one to alternate that are equally as good is unlikely. Just give the responsibility to one of em and go with them,we did the same with Matty Smith,I'm sure Williams can reach a similar standard.'"
I just don't understand why Williams isn't kicking full stop. His technique looks ok and he isn't going to get better by getting taken off kicking duty after one miss.
Whoever is to kick for the rest of this year needs to be decided and they need to roll with it imo. If things got horrendously bad after 5 or 6 games then maybe have a rethink but we can't afford to keep swapping it about numerous times mid match.
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| Bring back Willie Peters
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| Williams looks knackered/injured to me. He goes down on his hands and knees after we score a try.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"I just don't understand why Williams isn't kicking full stop. His technique looks ok and he isn't going to get better by getting taken off kicking duty after one miss.
Whoever is to kick for the rest of this year needs to be decided and they need to roll with it imo. If things got horrendously bad after 5 or 6 games then maybe have a rethink but we can't afford to keep swapping it about numerous times mid match.'"
Couldn't agree more.
Williams is practically guaranteed a place therefore, ideally I'd like to think he could become the regular kicker longer term. If he has a low success rate short term so be it as long as there is some genuine improvement in his technique over a period.
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| Quote Itchy Arsenal="Itchy Arsenal"Couldn't agree more.
Williams is practically guaranteed a place therefore, ideally I'd like to think he could become the regular kicker longer term. If he has a low success rate short term so be it as long as there is some genuine improvement in his technique over a period.'"
Agreed, but we also need to be coaching 2 or 3 others to cover for injuries.
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| Quote Geoff="Geoff"Agreed, but we also need to be coaching 2 or 3 others to cover for injuries.'"
If I were a player in the squad who's touch and go for a place in the starting 13 or even the 17, I would be putting hour after hour in to practicing goalkicking in the hope that it would help nail a spot.
I'm thinking guys like Escare, Powell, Marshall etc. If everyone is fit at the start of 2018 then those three may not be guaranteed of a spot. If they could get themselves up to being a 75%+ goal kicker though it would be tough to leave them out.
Easier said then done though.
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| Quote NickyKiss="NickyKiss"If I were a player in the squad who's touch and go for a place in the starting 13 or even the 17, I would be putting hour after hour in to practicing goalkicking in the hope that it would help nail a spot.
I'm thinking guys like Escare, Powell, Marshall etc. If everyone is fit at the start of 2018 then those three may not be guaranteed of a spot. If they could get themselves up to being a 75%+ goal kicker though it would be tough to leave them out.
Easier said then done though.'"
Perhaps, though I'm not sure Wane would take that into account when selecting a side, it just seems to be very low priority for him.
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| Quote NSW="NSW"I'd go
Davies ( safe under the high ball, good kick returner)
Marshall
Forsyth
Gildart
Burgess
Williams
Lealuai
FPN
McIlorum
Sutton
Isa
Tomkins
Wells
Field
Ganson
Naverette
Tautai.
Fell and Tierney to miss out.
Attack to go down the left side with Joel, Williams, Gildart and Burgess.'"
Its looking like this unless they put in Fell instead of Teirney
Teirney
Davies
Burgess
Gildart
Marshall
Williams
Lealuai
FPN
McIlorum
Sutton
Isa
Tomkins
Wells
Field
Ganson
Naverette
Tautai.
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