Jeez, Shaun Wane looks rough!

A really determined effort in the second half, though, if still alarmingly lacking in polish. Determined defences are *still* pushing us over the touch-line. Can we not learn? Some great efforts in defence from Bateman and Tautai, and Gelling was very good too. Sam looks convincing in the air, but can he ever beat a man again?

[edit And as Wigg'n points out, if Hull had taken their chances in the first half they could have put us to bed before the interval.

And despite their loss, I'd still swap Houghton, Sneyd and Shaul for their Wigan counterparts in a heartbeat.

Hull really aren't that good in my opinion, if you keep at them and don't fall away they face after 60 minutes, that showed and we did great to get a comeback from that, the attack isn't great and playing like that we'll win zilch, but Hull won't win anything if anyone puts pressure on them like we did, the LLS and GF are there for Wire to sweep quite easy this year

I'm struggling to know what to type anymore.The season has been like groundhog day! We're so brave, we soak up mountains of pressure and then seem to play like a proper Wigan team for the last 15 minutes. They need to find the key to unlocking that momentum from minute one. I can't knock their attitude one bit tonight. Stevo bagged some of the player for shrirking their defensive responsibilities early on and I thought that was a disgraceful comment! The players weren't hitting their straps but their scramble was immense and the whole basis of the win was guts.

Looking at it from a technical point of view we need to get far more depth on our plays. The players look on top of each others heads and half of the time we're killing our own plays by getting in each others way.

We need to work on that and kick on. We refuse to go away in all games so if we can find 5% in attack we'll give ourselves a chance.

You pinched our pockets. But gotta say your tackling is first class. Well done you never gave up

That game sums up our season, tons of effort, good defence, terrible with the ball. Individual efforts in attack saving us.

It certainly did and it's the reason why i want to throw everything behind the players. They're giving it everything and looking for the answers. We need those answers to arrive in the next month but who knows, stranger things have happened.

I know I'm skeptical, quite negative at times, probably even scathing, but it's only because I know this team, even with the injuries, have massively under performed all season with our attacking play. I've no wish to see Wane sacked, all I want is our team to perform to their potential, if that entails replacing Wane then so be it, if it means bringing some new back room staff then so be it. The fact is though, to get us reaching our potential, we need change, and I just hope to God IL knows this and has a plan, either with or without Wane. My main concern is that he does nothing at all.

Great post as always.

Totally agree.

Couldn't agree more. Great credit on stealing the win but the club has to offer more than that IMO.

I fully agree. My call would be to bring in a strong assistant with a real attacking pedigree but maybe Wane doesn't want that. If he doesn't then maybe the he's reached the end because we certainly need a change and he should recognize that himself.

I can't help but wonder what is happening behind the scenes. Are the players happy after the 'events' of mid season? Are players carrying injuries? I've read rumors that Williams is carrying an injury and Wane has mentioned this week that Sam is hardly training.

The one thing I do know is that if we could pull off a grand final win this year I think it'd be the sweetest feeling in my nigh on 30 years watching us because of the circumstances.