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| Quote: NickyKiss "He didn't really which was the strangest part of the interview. He mentioned that they were worried about the newly laid pitch getting cut up and being ruined but then in the same breath said we've been trying to move the fixture since last September(well before we knew how wet a winter we'd have or that we'd eventually need a new pitch).
He didn't say it but it's clear that we're not allowed to play on Friday nights before Latics play on Saturdays. That used to be the case in the Latics prem days didn't it? I thought that had died off though over the last few years.
He sort of blamed the RFL's scheduling but we're not giving them much to work with. We've got a stadium we can't use on Friday nights every other week from Feb-May and we're not allowed to use it at all from mid May to July. When written down that's frightening!!!'"
He did. He said they identified last September that trying to play two games in 20 hours on our pitch in February was going to be an issue, hence why they put it on their high priority list of dates. For whatever reason, the RFL didn't take it into account.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "He did. He said they identified last September that trying to play two games in 20 hours on our pitch in February was going to be an issue, hence why they put it on their high priority list of dates. For whatever reason, the RFL didn't take it into account.'"
But he says they also looked at playing the game on Sunday instead! But because Salford are playing the Thursday after they did not want to. So it would of still been two games played on it.
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| Quote: Wigan6/Leeds1 Andy "He did. He said they identified last September that trying to play two games in 20 hours on our pitch in February was going to be an issue, hence why they put it on their high priority list of dates. For whatever reason, the RFL didn't take it into account.'"
The RFL did take it into account. A Thursday or Sunday game meant a four day turnaround. They took that into account and just said "no" for that reason.
Given Wigan RL had not received a request from Latrics to move the game (as IL confirmed was the case on Wigan TV) this was a problem of our own making. Once the RFL said "no" why could Latics not move their Saturday fixture or do we always have to be the one who does?
The shenanigans over Leigh/Rochdale/Blackpool/Widnes that went on after that are just that and are a distraction.
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| The lack of communication on this issue from the club was shameful,they could have said something,anything to reassure the fans theres a problem but they where on it,but no lets faff around and leave it till a week is left,sorry Ian you dropped the ball there.
And "we dont move games"?yes of course we dont i still can taste the jellied eals from last september.
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| Four day turnaround for Salford which suggests the RFL has abandoned it's policy.
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| Quote: DaveO "The RFL did take it into account. A Thursday or Sunday game meant a four day turnaround. They took that into account and just said "no" for that reason.
Given Wigan RL had not received a request from Latrics to move the game (as IL confirmed was the case on Wigan TV) this was a problem of our own making. Once the RFL said "no" why could Latics not move their Saturday fixture or do we always have to be the one who does?
The shenanigans over Leigh/Rochdale/Blackpool/Widnes that went on after that are just that and are a distraction.'"
The RFL scheduled us to play Salford this weekend while at the same time ignoring Wigan's request not to play this Friday. Had they actually taken Wigan's request into account and had us playing away somewhere this weekend or at home against another club who could play Thursday or Sunday without it causing a four day turnaround this mess wouldn't have occurred - it's not rocket science.
The reason why Wigan put this Friday down as one not to play at home was because they knew Latics were at home the following day, their fixtures had been out for over 3 months before Wigan's initial requests were put in. Why should the Latics move a fixture because the RFL couldn't organise a drink in a brewery, even when someone else had brought the drink and sent out the invitations?
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| Quote: B.Rowlins "But he says they also looked at playing the game on Sunday instead! But because Salford are playing the Thursday after they did not want to. So it would of still been two games played on it.'"
Only after the RFL ignored Wigan's request. The RFL could have decided on a fixture for Wigan away from home this weekend or at home against another club who wouldn't have been in the Salford situation. They didn't, when it would have been easy not to have this mess occur in the first place.
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| Mr Lennigan contradicted himself that many times that even he became confused .
He clearly believes that the corporate world he lives in matters more than the clubs live blood THE FANS. Moving game to London clearly mean more to him than ensuring that the home fans get a fair deal .
A simple statement a few weeks ago could have avoided all the bad feeling between the club and the fans. Has the lesson been learned , not a chance. He admitted there was a problem on Easter Monday and then never mentioned it again . No solution , No warning the the game may have to be moved to another date nothing . Rumour has it that it will be two games on THAT pitch (the one that cant take two matches in 24 hours) the same day with us starting at 8pm. If that is the case a lot of out of town fans are going to miss out again unless they drive which is not a great idea on a Bank Holiday
I know for a fact that if it wasn’t for the fact that they have season tickets a few far travelled fans would tell the club to shove it as they are so hacked off with the whole situation . Some of us have the dearest season ticket seats per game in the stadium as we can get to so few games at home these days .
Just noticed the the fixture list on the Warriors website confirms the Easter Monday game is confirmed as an 8pm Kick Off (screwed again)
Wigan Athletic's game listed on their website as 3pm
Regards , EW
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| We should know by now owners care very little for fans.
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| How will they cater for the hospitality?
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| The initial part of the regular season covers a 25 week period. Deduct one for the WCC, two for Challenge Cup rounds and one for Easter where Wigan were due a home fixture on the Monday this year. That leaves 21 weeks for SL games. Wigan advised the RFL that they wanted to be away from the DW stadium on no less than 11 weekends in that period due to:
a) Wigan Athletic playing on the Saturday
b) The DW not being available for a prolonged period in May, June and July.
That the RFL accommodated almost all of this except for one game is actually quite an achievement - it is certainly not a simple case that the RFL could simply have slotted Wigan in away in the weekend in question. Firstly the Wigan fixture list is already unbalanced enough but moreover the DW is already being used almost every time Wigan said it was free. Bear in mind that other clubs also have requirements (albeit none anywhere near so demanding) when they cannot use their home grounds that have to be accommodated - hence the Salford games couldn't be inverted. Plus the unwritten rule that they try and avoid four day turnarounds without the consent of both clubs involved and the whole fixture-setting process becomes almost impossible when you add a club with such onerous demands as Wigan.
In summary, the RFL went well out of its way to accommodate Wigan on the few weeks the DW has been declared available in 2016. For Lenagan to try and blame them for one game that couldn't be fitted in is, at best, disingenuous. The problem quite clearly lies in the club's position as secondary tenants at their home ground.
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| Maybe one way to ease the fixture congestion at the DW could be to have one home match scheduled during the time the pitch is being resurfaced and use this for the London game.
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| I wonder if "ghost of 99" works for the RFL.
Quite a statement is that!
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| Quote: Father Ted "I wonder if "ghost of 99" works for the RFL.
Quite a statement is that!'"
Yeah, he sounds unusually well informed for one of the usual thickos who come galloping onto this site from elsewhere.
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| Given the following written by "ghost" on the Salford forum the other day I wouldn't waste too much time thinking he/she has much credibility or inside informationNothing to do with the RFL. Fixture lists are arranged around stadium availability - the majority of stadia in the league have other claims on their time than just Super League games. The fixture list preparation process gives clubs plenty of opportunities to flag up such problems - [iif Wigan had told the RFL the DW wasn't available this Friday then the fixture wouldn't have been scheduled[/i. Unfortunately Wigan's embarrassingly weak position at the ground they play in means they get bullied by their landlords on when they can play, even on fixtures which have already been scheduled.'"
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