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| Quote: Bigredwarrior "That was a good hard game of rugby and we lost. That's the end of it really. A few 50/50 calls went their way in 1st half but overall I can live with that. Our 'predictable' attack has scored more than everybody else in the league and defensively, we're not far off!
I think we are above where I expected us the be when the season kicked off and to be still in the top 4 after the run of injuries we've had is more than acceptable. Let's just be honest, Saints are a much stronger side this year that they have been for a while and but they only did us by 4. With MM & Faz back we can go up a gear where I'm not really sure saints have any more to give than they gave tonight.
I hate losing against them but I'll sleep ok!'"
Get some bodies back and I agree we will be in with a real shout come the play-offs.
At the moment we look dis-organised at key times which I thought cost us tonight.
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| Fair play to Saints, very enthused. As I thought we'd struggle to break them down. Turning point for me was after Charnley's first try off the kick off.
Great few carries by Dudson, Flower and Doran, rolling forward and Smith puts in an AWFUL sliced kick.
Still pretty confident we'll get Saints when we need to. Especially if we get some bodies back.
Team tonight vs My playoff team
Bowen Bowen
Charnley Charnley
Gelling Goulding
Sarginson Gelling
Burgess Burgess
Powell Green
Smith Smith
Dudson Taylor
Williams McIlorum
Flower Flower
Bateman Bateman
Hughes Farrell
O'Loughlin O'Loughlin
James Clubb
Crosby Pettybourne
Taylor Joel Tomkins
Doran Powell
Loads of improvement in that team. Game-breaking ability in Green and Farrell.
We have that team out come September we'll be there or there abouts.
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| Quote: NSW "Fair play to Saints, very enthused. As I thought we'd struggle to break them down. Turning point for me was after Charnley's first try off the kick off.
Great few carries by Dudson, Flower and Doran, rolling forward and Smith puts in an AWFUL sliced kick.
Still pretty confident we'll get Saints when we need to. Especially if we get some bodies back.
Team tonight vs My playoff team
Bowen Bowen
Charnley Charnley
Gelling Goulding
Sarginson Gelling
Burgess Burgess
Powell Green
Smith Smith
Dudson Taylor
Williams McIlorum
Flower Flower
Bateman Bateman
Hughes Farrell
O'Loughlin O'Loughlin
James Clubb
Crosby Pettybourne
Taylor Joel Tomkins
Doran Powell
Loads of improvement in that team. Game-breaking ability in Green and Farrell.
We have that team out come September we'll be there or there abouts.'"
Spot on, nothing to be too too concerned about tonight but we do need fully fit players on the pitch soon.
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| We do have to get those players back though. As soon as one returns we seem to get another injured. If we continue to go into games with 7-8 missing from our best 17 then we won't win the big games.
Get them back and we are good enough to beat anyone.
Agree with the selection above broadly, I'd have Crosby in preference to Pettybourne.
As for the game. Second half I thought Wigan were running on empty. At 8-16 it looked to me as if Saints would add another couple of trys and have a convincing score. That it ended three trys each with the game won on goals says a lot about our ability to hang in and Saints inability to finish us off.
With all their domination of the game they should have scored far more trys than Wigan.
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| Quote: NSW "Fair play to Saints, very enthused. As I thought we'd struggle to break them down. Turning point for me was after Charnley's first try off the kick off.
Great few carries by Dudson, Flower and Doran, rolling forward and Smith puts in an AWFUL sliced kick.'"
The turning point was the penalty for lifting. No penalty. No try.
Quote: NSW "Team tonight vs My playoff team
Bowen Bowen
Charnley Charnley
Gelling Goulding
Sarginson Gelling
Burgess Burgess
Powell Green
Smith Smith
Dudson Taylor
Williams McIlorum
Flower Flower
Bateman Bateman
Hughes Farrell
O'Loughlin O'Loughlin
James Clubb
Crosby Pettybourne
Taylor Joel Tomkins
Doran Powell
Loads of improvement in that team. Game-breaking ability in Green and Farrell.
We have that team out come September we'll be there or there abouts.'"
I agree except for Thornley who I'd still have over Gelling. but they have to be up to speed and match fit.
Not for the playoffs but tonight I thought Doran did well for his short stint. In fact I think we would have been better leaving him on.
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| Quote: Pieman "Wasn't our structure. We played 1 up rugby and were out muscled and out enthused. Add that to sarginson being a turnstyle in defence and it was never going to end well'"
So... If you played one up rugby how is that not part of your structure during the game? I'm confused...
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| Quote: DaveO "The teams were evenly matched in the first half and Saints were better in the 2nd for a good 25 mins but still showed no sign of getting over the line or scoring until we gave two penalties away. One for two points and one led to a six point try. In close games things like that decide the result and it is not bitterness pointing these things out.
On another day Saints first try would have been ruled forward, Burgess try would have stood and Matty Smith would have kicked both goals. Had any of those happened today we'd have either drawn or won and had we done so no one would give a toss about that 25 minutes of pressure Saints had with so little reward and instead it would have been seen as epic defense. To the victor the spoils but that doesn't alter what turned the game.
I bet Wane has a few words to say about both penalties and won't be putting the loss down to Saints better game plan!'"
Or.....on another day the opposition doesn't get slapped 11-5 in the penalty count, including 5 in last 12 minutes. Or.....on another day Wello is adjudged not to have grounded ball behind goal line giving Wigan a drop out which led to a try, or.....on another day the ref hears the touch Judge shout forward pass? Or....even on another day the touch judge sees that the Percival conversion sails through the posts & doesn't wave it away?
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| It’s not the end of the world and we’ll bounce back I’m sure; after the embarrassing mauling the Cats gave em they needed something to placate their shrinking egos. As for us if we could have matched them on goal kicking I would have been a little happier!
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| As a neutral is was a great game to watch. From what I can remember there were a coupe of penalties which changed the momentum towards saints at a key point and it went from you nearly scoring to saints scoring. You nearly/should have gone in on that double movement 4 mins from the end. Really good game though and good atmosphere as well.
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| Quote: theres only one stan wall "Or.....on another day the opposition doesn't get slapped 11-5 in the penalty count, including 5 in last 12 minutes. Or.....on another day Wello is adjudged not to have grounded ball behind goal line giving Wigan a drop out which led to a try, or.....on another day the ref hears the touch Judge shout forward pass? Or....even on another day the touch judge sees that the Percival conversion sails through the posts & doesn't wave it away?'"
I wonder if Albions read this?
He would have to edit his post earlier and say now he's never read as much bollox in his life!
My particular favourite being Wello being adjudged not to have grounded the ball etc.
The reason he was is because he did and I'm not sure how in any circumstance anyone wouldn't be able to see that?
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| They changed the ruling last season im afraid. If he gets up & moves back over line without being tackled behind it, its play on. Do keep up.
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| Quote: theres only one stan wall "They changed the ruling last season im afraid. If he gets up & moves back over line without being tackled behind it, its play on. Do keep up.'"
If they did I apologise, the rest still stands.
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| Quote: Albion "Never read so much bollox in all my life.'"
So we haven't scored more points than anybody else (except Leeds) so far this season?
So you thought before the season kicked off, with all the loss in personnel, that we would be in such a good position?
So even with the unprecidented injuries this year you think we should be in a better position?
Sorry pal but you need to be realistic. The season as a whole is going ok all things considered and on last night, we can improve! We were beaten by a team with a big point to prove after Easter and the Catalan mauling.
We move on.......
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| Very disappointing to lose, and i hate losing to stains. But we have lost to the team who have gone top, so despite all their whining they can't be that bad, can they. We did look very predictable, but as some stains have been acknowledging, you know what we are going to do, but it's still hard to stop. You could use Beckham as an example of something similar, you knew he would make half a yard then cross, but was hard to stop. MM's control, and Greens guile were missing of course, but i thought that the young lads, stood up well. Young Doran looked very much at home, and his passing was crisp and accurate.
So, disappointed, but certainly not downhearted.
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| Quote: theres only one stan wall "They changed the ruling last season im afraid. If he gets up & moves back over line without being tackled behind it, its play on. Do keep up.'"
He was tackled though
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