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| Quote wigan pie man="wigan pie man"Plenty didnt want him near the match after the 19 was announced.
I was in a massive minority for saying he needed to be on the bench.
Wane seemed to share my views and gave him a bench spot, which allowed MM to have a rest then come back and help settle the game.
Logan did nothing wrong , except 1 knock-on, (and who didnt knock on?) and was solid.
This thread allows the doubters to come on here and say.."we were wrong, Sean Wane and WPM got it right"
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Spot on. He's improving all the time. Not everyone starts like a hare. |
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Still don't really see what he offers atm but he's still young and has time to improve. We definitely lose some tempo in attack when he comes on and his defence, particularly one-on-one, isnt a patch on McIlorums.
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| Quote MattyB="MattyB"Lets just say I was counting down the minutes for MM to get back onto the pitch and being mighty relieved we hadn't conceded any points over that period.'"
Interesting point... |
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Players should force their way in ad far as I'm concerned, the general opinion here seems to be that he's young and has time to improve, improve on what though? I don't see what his strengths are at all, he isn't a great organiser, he doesn't have pace, he doesn't move the ball out of dummy half particularly fast.
I'm not bagging him for the sake of it, or scapegoating and the like. It's just an honest opinion, that I see him as a very average player who doesn't offer anything other than doing the basics without error.
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Players should force their way in ad far as I'm concerned, the general opinion here seems to be that he's young and has time to improve, improve on what though? I don't see what his strengths are at all, he isn't a great organiser, he doesn't have pace, he doesn't move the ball out of dummy half particularly fast.
I'm not bagging him for the sake of it, or scapegoating and the like. It's just an honest opinion, that I see him as a very average player who doesn't offer anything other than doing the basics without error.
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It doesn't seem like that long ago since some people used to say that McIlorum offered nothing and they couldn't wait for Riddell to get back on the field.
Logan is playing a similar role to one MM did as an apprentice to Piggy, just pass the ball at dummy-half and keep tackling in the middle. For me, he's not as physical as MM was in defence even back then, but it's early days and bar the knock-on, he did nothing wrong that I saw on Saturday.
As for us conceding points when he's on the field, I know statistics aren't the whole story - but his missed tackle rate is about 6.4% compared to 9.8% for MM, so he's hardly a turnstile.
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| Quote phibes="phibes"It doesn't seem like that long ago since some people used to say that McIlorum offered nothing and they couldn't wait for Riddell to get back on the field.
Logan is playing a similar role to one MM did as an apprentice to Piggy, just pass the ball at dummy-half and keep tackling in the middle. For me, he's not as physical as MM was in defence even back then, but it's early days and bar the knock-on, he did nothing wrong that I saw on Saturday.
As for us conceding points when he's on the field, I know statistics aren't the whole story - but his missed tackle rate is about 6.4% compared to 9.8% for MM, so he's hardly a turnstile.'"
One of the problems people mention is that he very rarely wins collisions though, letting the opposition get on the front foot. |
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For me I think Logan needs to develop his game a lot but ideally in a different way to to Micky Mac (who he will never be like), given Logan's stature if he could develop into a running /scooting type hooker with good distribution it would aid the squad and him a lot by providing a different option - sometimes I do feel that Micky Mac is a bit limited - he is not a creative type hooker.
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| Quote the wrestler="the wrestler"One of the problems people mention is that he very rarely wins collisions though, letting the opposition get on the front foot.[/
That's a fair point, MM might miss more tackles but when he hits, he usually wins the collision.
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Logan should have been man of the match tonight. He was outstanding from start to finish. Definitely a hooker who should start games, rather than an impact player.
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Definitely his best match so far
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Credit where due he was good tonight, just wish he would play like that every week. Or at least more than once a season.
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