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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "Your clutching at straws my friend. Are you referring to the topic incidents or are there other instances of foul play you felt had an impact on your victory?

Please, elaborate
None of them had an impact on the victory because we didnt let them. That doesnt mean the cheap shots are ok though.

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What cheap shots?? You keep mentioning it but examples arent very forthcoming.

Both teams were niggly all game, Mcillorum, Hock, Lauaki, O'loughlin were all at it too. Nothing occurred that warranted anyone recieving a ban.

Yet you seem to think different?

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "What cheap shots?? You keep mentioning it but examples arent very forthcoming.

Both teams were niggly all game, Mcillorum, Hock, Lauaki, O'loughlin were all at it too. Nothing occurred that warranted anyone recieving a ban.

Yet you seem to think different?'"


Abblett on Tomkins didnt even get looked at. Hock got banned for a gouge even though the player he apparantley did it to backed him up that he didnt.

Bailey with yet another swinging arm gets away with nothing maybe due to his past good record? icon_lol.gif

Leeds kick it off with Mcilorum yet he is the one getting the caution? WTF? icon_lol.gif

Lee Smith leading with the knee but gets off because it initially hit his upper body? WTF? icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wandering Warrior "Abblett on Tomkins didnt even get looked at. Hock got banned for a gouge even though the player he apparantley did it to backed him up that he didnt.

Bailey with yet another swinging arm gets away with nothing maybe due to his past good record?

icon_lol.gif Clutching, grasping, jumping for those straws, just as I thought.

No 1: Comparing Ablett to Hock icon_smile.gif
No 2: Bailey Vs Lauaki with nothing more than a lazy arm which happens every week icon_biggrin.gif
No 3: Mcilorum threw the first punches, tut tut tut eusa_naughty.gif
No 4: Smith. Tomkins has done this quite a few times I seem to remember eusa_think.gif

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lol: Clutching, grasping, jumping for those straws, just as I thought.

No 1: Comparing Ablett to Hock icon_smile.gif
No 2: Bailey Vs Lauaki with nothing more than a lazy arm which happens every week icon_biggrin.gif
No 3: Mcilorum threw the first punches, tut tut tut eusa_naughty.gif
No 4: Smith. Tomkins has done this quite a few times I seem to remember eusa_think.gif

No1 What kind of a response is that?
No2 Happens every week is the case in point.
No3 The Leeds player started the confrontation and then his team mates saved him from a good hiding. If Mcilorum deserves a caution then the instigator deserves at least the same.
No4 When? Show me the evidence.

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "icon_lol.gif Clutching, grasping, jumping for those straws, just as I thought.

No 1: Comparing Ablett to Hock
I agree, comparing Ablett to Hock is like comparing Ablett's Richie Mathers to Hock's Billy Slater.

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "icon_lol.gif Clutching, grasping, jumping for those straws, just as I thought.

No 1: Comparing Ablett to Hock
1. yes, that is quite funny as Hock is clearer a much better player than Ablett so there really is no comparison
2. i agree, Bailey does do this every week
3. possibly give you that one
4. and there has been a public outcry when he has done it (assuming he has, i havent checked/dont recall) but are you saying its ok for Smith to do it?

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Quote: Wandering Warrior "lol: Clutching, grasping, jumping for those straws, just as I thought.

No 1: Comparing Ablett to Hock
1: The only one your gonna get icon_thumb.gif
2: Happens every week by different players If your gonna be pedantic, eg, Morley, Peacock, Westwood etc icon_thumb.gif
3: OK, so Hauraki started it? And his team mates jumped in to "save him from a good hiding" icon_lol.gif (this is the same Hauraki who boxed at both Burrow and Radford's Testimonial boxing events) You got the penalty, Mcillorum was cautioned for punching eusa_naughty.gif Point done, wheres the issue? c020.gif
4: September 2011, Vs Warrington. Tomkins investigated over use of the boot in attempt to stop Clarke from scoring a try icon_wave.gif

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Quote: [Gareth] ""1. yes, that is quite funny as Hock is clearer a much better player than Ablett so there really is no comparison
2. i agree, Bailey does do this every week
3. possibly give you that one
4. and there has been a public outcry when he has done it (assuming he has, i havent checked/dont recall) but are you saying its ok for Smith to do it?'"



No, but in the context of the topic, my point is none of these warranted a ban which is what my Cherry and White counterparts seem to think should have happened.

And, Ill have to disagree, hock is NOT a much better player than Ablett. eusa_naughty.gif

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "1: The only one your gonna get
1&2 icon_lol.gif No comments required from me.

3. Leeds players instigated it but Mcilorum retaliated with punches. You can be cautioned for instigating. Boxing in charity events with gloves and a ref is totally different to fighting a tough nut like Mcilorum with no gloves or protection.

4. Tomkins stupidly put his foot down to try and block somebody putting the ball down and was correctly looked at and cautioned. Lee Smith came in with his knees late after the ball was put down which is a lot more dangerous and totally different. He didnt even get a caution either but Tomkins did icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Wandering Warrior "1&2

Ok, so Mcillorum is hard as nails (Leeds lad n all that) icon_frustrated.gif

And, Smith STUPIDLY slid in with his knees made contact with Charnleys arm AS the ball was put down. icon_thumb.gif

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Lee smith is a waster and should have at least got a caution/word about technique for that, so that when he does it again he can be rightly banned.

ablett is nothing more than a thug, I've yet to see him produce anything particularly skillful, except managing to nail a prone Tomkins last year and has done nothing but continue to be a niggling thug, constantly throwing in cheap shots, an eye gouge on Saturday is just the latest example.

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Quote: Enicomb "Lee smith is a waster and should have at least got a caution/word about technique for that, so that when he does it again he can be rightly banned.

ablett is nothing more than a thug, I've yet to see him produce anything particularly skillful, except managing to nail a prone Tomkins last year and has done nothing but continue to be a niggling thug, constantly throwing in cheap shots, an eye gouge on Saturday is just the latest example.'"



Some invaluable input added to this thread at last eusa_clap.gif

I was beginning to think it was full of brainless buffoons icon_beat.gif

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FWIW, it doesn't appear to be the knees in on Charnley that Smith was pulled up for - it's a different incident about ten mins after the first try, on Goulding, according to the description on the RFL site.

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Quote: Rhinoshaund III "GUESTS, they were no more regular than every other GUEST on the programme. Guests being the operative word. And also the fact the SL show is filmed in Leeds at stupid o'clock means there's likely to be more yorkshire based guests anyway.

Tomkins has suddenly become the "newest" member of Sky Sports RL presenting team, not a GUEST presenter, but an actual presenter. 2.611328125:10
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