By offering James Graham the best deal the club has ever made to any player at the club? I don't remember us criticising you for that?

Now you are just acting thick on purpose

Are you sure it's on purpose?

The word you meant to write is 'obtuse'.

this is a joke isnt it?

Lol from a Wire fan?!

Do you realise how many of your 1-17 are bought in?! I guarantee it is more than Wigan have.

I can think of 3 in the first 17 players who have been brought through the youth system....wood, harrison and riley. Poor.

So your evidence of Wigan being a buying club is to use what fans are speculating about who they would want rather than what the club has actually done?

No but we got Criticised by replacing english players with aussies/new zealanders! In fact last season we got stick for replacing 5 aussies with 3 aussies and bringing through 2 english lads.

You have replaced Biiscuit with Lance Hohaia and your fans are speculating on which NRL player can replace Graham

I think thats what the arguement is!

Still not the same. Kyle was our first choice scrum half. Our next scrum half is presently playing in the under 18s. Kyle was made an excellent offer but he wanted to play Union. If he wants to play Union there is nothing we can do about it. In the meantime we have a plethora of young stand offs - Gaskell, Lomax and Wheeler to name the oldest (plus Pryce of course who isn't a young player by anyone's measure) - but no young scrum halves ready for the first team. We are in a position of this being too early for our next talent. Lance has been offered the no.7 but he is being brought in for his versatility. Royce Simmons wants four halves to call on, which I think is wise. If Lomax develops as a no.7 then he will take over but he's very raw in the position having played in all backline positions bar scrum half previously.

The same applies to James Graham. We offered him the best deal we've ever made a player but he wants to go to the NRL so there is nothing that can be done there. But our next potential props are too young - Joe Greenwood has found himself named as a prop in the squad this week but he is 18 and actually a second rower. He and others we have may well blossom within the next few years but meanwhile we have a hole to fill for next season and the only way to do that is by importing.

None of us want to import. Saints fans have really bought into the young players and we have been very impressed with most of them. But we have two urgent requirements that at present cannot be filled by our young players: scrum half and prop forward. I know that young players will fill those spots once they are ready to do so. It took James Graham a season or two to become a regular feature in the team. I would expect the same to be the case for any young players we bring through in those positions.

I still don't see how our situation in this regard is the same as letting young potential go in order to bring in imports.

Why did you bring in Finch instead of promote one of your own?

Nope.... Not obtuse.... THICK!! The point is who you are replacing them with, and what would be said if we did the same.

again you are choosing to ignore what he said. Last year, we lost 5 imports brought in 3 and promoted 2 players. We got slated fro bringing in the import. You have lost a British player and brought in an import, and may do with Graham. Can you see it now?

the answer to your question is he replaced Riddell as our halves werent ready in the 20's like you are saying yours arent.