Would you not say Roberts was as fast if not faster? Sam and Pat cant be far behind either.

no where near

Calderwood faster than all three

If it comes done to just pure pace then surely Dwain Chambers is a better player than all of them?.

Amos is 20 times the player Calderwood ever was. Straight line acceleration is no match for guile and cunning

Calderwood was a very lazy player who only started to come looking for work in his last season with us. His defence was shocking also.

Could be said for certain other players in the team until MAdge arrived.

Correct.

Calderwood was the scapegoat of his time.

I'd love to see the number of tries we'd have conceded had it not been for him chasing back.

The stats on Calderwood says that is complete and utter bollox. If you compare him to Pat his defence stats are generally slightly better, certainly no worse and his work around the marker area significantly better. Would you say the same thing about Pat?

Are we really trying to compare Claderwood 2 Pat?

I would have love to have seen Calders playing at centre like Pat did when he first arrived. Or see Calderwood ever contribute 2 the team like Pat did.

Calders really is the ultimate bullet without a gun. He's got no power, a none existent fend or step and even if he worked hard it was no harder than say someone like Colbon did.

All this bull about putting him in our current side and suggesting he'd be a superstar is laughable.

All pace no ability and I'd go out on a limb and say he's one of the poorest Wigan wingers of the past 20 years.

My post didn't compare Calderwood to Pat, more Goulding who himself is no Ray Mordt when it comes to running through defenders.

Based on the areas quoted i.e. lazy and crapola defence, clearly yes. The stats across the three years when they both played in the team in those areas do not back up the previous quotes. Like I said would anyone say the same thing about Pat in those areas? Definitely not - so why say it about Calderwood when the facts show it to be untrue?

I was replying 2 WLA post above mine.

Even Claders vs Goulding is a no contest. I don't think Calders has the ability to score some of the tries Goulding did this year. The one vs Hull especially sticks out in the memory as something we never saw from Calders.