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| Quote Lippy="Lippy"Maybe the club have not yet decided/ agreed what to do with Hock. Maybe they have been waiting for the new coach to come in? Cant announce anything if there is nothing to announce.'"
Plenty of announcements were made before the new coach arrived. Deals were given to players as contracts expired throughout last season for example both before and after Hock's ban IIRC. This happened six months ago so plenty of time to decide on his future especially given most players in Hock's position just get sacked. A club doesn't cease to function while it waits for a new coach it wasn't certain of getting.
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| As usual in these matters, all bile is being directed at the club.... Have any of you who are considered that the club may be trying to help Gareth Hock, but he is undecided what he wants to do.... I am getting really fed up with all this speculation just because people who don't need to know the personal dealings twixt the club and Gareth Hock, think they should..
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"I completely disagree. Had Wigan made Hock's position with the club clear Millward would have no reason to comment.
If Hocks future with the club was already on record then if that future was he would get a new deal once his ban was complete Millward would be basically saying in public IL was wrong. That would be an extraordinary thing for a coach of another club to do and I don't think even Millward is stupid enough to do that.
Had all ties been cut as Millward suggests he equally would have no reason to comment as there would be no story there for him to milk.
I think all this is obvious when you think about it and it all stems from Wigan's lack of statement on the issue.
Millward would have no story were Hocks future already decided and the fact he has commented is directly as a result of Hock's future position not having been made public.
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If Wigan announce that Hock is re-signing after his ban, Millward could just as easily comment that going to Aus would be a better move. Likewise, if Wigan announce that Hock is signing for another British club, he could say the same thing. In fact he may have MORE reason to say it under these circs, as he could then argue that Hock had made a mistake rather than just speculate.
It would be an "extraordinarily thing" for a coach to indirectly criticise another club's chairman????
Are you serious?
What's going to happen - is IL so powerful that he can get Millward's chairman to sack him purely for expressing a viewpoint?
Even in the highly unlikely event that holding this view was actually seen as criticism, it would most likely be seen as criticism of Hock for not making the correct decision about his own future. Accusing IL of making a deal that favours Wigan can hardly be seen as criticism.
You really are on dodgy ground with this one, Dave. I'd stick to just complaining that we haven't been told anything.
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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"Plenty of announcements were made before the new coach arrived. Deals were given to players as contracts expired throughout last season for example both before and after Hock's ban IIRC. This happened six months ago so plenty of time to decide on his future especially given most players in Hock's position just get sacked. A club doesn't cease to function while it waits for a new coach it wasn't certain of getting.
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Quite right things started to happen weeks and months ago. But they have been announced because they had been sorted/ agreed by all parties. We have had nothing announced about our new sponsor yet because there is nothing to announce. Like wise Hock. Should they call a press conference regarding Hock, sit the press down and announce that there is nothing to announce? Maybe Hock wants time and space away from the sport while he sorts his personal life. Maybe he does not like what has been to put him? Who cares? In time when all concerned sit down and agree on something, then it will be announced.
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| Rubbish.
Dave wants to know NOW. 
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| Quote Pemps="Pemps"This is the impression I was given too. Saints on the other hand....'"
Absolutely. If he's piddled off at anyone, it is the Saints management. I say management because the fans were shocked and protested much at his departure and so I don't think he will feel similarly about the Saints fans. He should never have moved to Wigan but gone straight back home as he was clearly somewhat bothered by whatever it was that happened here. I'm glad he's back in the country and I hope he shakes and stirs it because things have become way too bland in recent times.
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| Quote Lippy="Lippy"Quite right things started to happen weeks and months ago. But they have been announced because they had been sorted/ agreed by all parties. We have had nothing announced about our new sponsor yet because there is nothing to announce. Like wise Hock. Should they call a press conference regarding Hock, sit the press down and announce that there is nothing to announce? Maybe Hock wants time and space away from the sport while he sorts his personal life. Maybe he does not like what has been to put him? Who cares? In time when all concerned sit down and agree on something, then it will be announced.'"
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IL: As you are all aware Gareth Hock's registration was terminated by the RFL for taking a banned substance.
Reporter: Can you tell us if you'll be re-signing him after his ban?
IL: Dunno
Reporter: Thanks for your time Ian.
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| Quote SaintsFan="SaintsFan"Absolutely. If he's piddled off at anyone, it is the Saints management. I say management because the fans were shocked and protested much at his departure and so I don't think he will feel similarly about the Saints fans. He should never have moved to Wigan but gone straight back home as he was clearly somewhat bothered by whatever it was that happened here. I'm glad he's back in the country and I hope he shakes and stirs it because things have become way too bland in recent times.'"
Well he's also advocating that James Graham and James Roby head for Australia, so maybe the Saints fans may change their mind about him. 
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| I might be in a minority but I wouldn't be too bothered if we didn't re-sign Hock. For all his natural talent he brings at least as many negatives to the club, both on and off the pitch. That said if he demonstrates to the new management that he has sorted himself out and they think him worthy of a new contract, I'd be happy to see if he can finish his career more positively.
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| Quote JTB="JTB"I might be in a minority but I wouldn't be too bothered if we didn't re-sign Hock. For all his natural talent he brings at least as many negatives to the club, both on and off the pitch. That said if he demonstrates to the new management that he has sorted himself out and they think him worthy of a new contract, I'd be happy to see if he can finish his career more positively.'"
Totally agree.
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| I'd personally like the club to end the Hock situation once and for all by detailing the plans for him! If there are none in place then sort some out or put an updated club view point out there!
Untill this happens we will see threads like this every three or four weeks asking what's happening regarding Hock.
The club doesn't need the same old crap popping up week after week when it's trying to start a fresh new chapter.
Get it sorted once and for all and let's be done with it
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| Quote thepriestman85="thepriestman85"I'd personally like the club to end the Hock situation once and for all by detailing the plans for him! If there are none in place then sort some out or put an updated club view point out there!
Untill this happens we will see threads like this every three or four weeks asking what's happening regarding Hock.
The club doesn't need the same old crap popping up week after week when it's trying to start a fresh new chapter.
Get it sorted once and for all and let's be done with it'"
Prepare to get shot down pal. Common sense isn't usually accepted on here.
Its not the case that fans feel they need to know everything that goes on in the club as some people accuse, just that it would benefit the club and player by releasing a statement, stopping speculation and at the same time letting the fans know what's happening with one of our best players.
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