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| Quote DaveO="DaveO"If he wants to come back he must subject himself to regular testing during the two years. If he gets caught again it is a life time ban.
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Ahh fair enough. Thanks
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| Quote Wollagong Way="Wollagong Way"I'm not familiar with the case and i'm only making this judgement / comment on what i have read, but i am suprised that you would want such an indiviudal in and around your club still!
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I'd rather have Hock than someone prone to assault charges e.g. Feka, Leon Pryce, Stuart Reardon, or indeed Hock rather than someone who punches people in the face and fractures their eye socket.
Frankly, I wish the zero-tolerance policy applied to drugs applied to other off-field (and on-field for that matter) incidents.
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| The point to all of this at the end of the day is that he has been given a 2 year ban as his punishment. Once he has done this he is as clean and innocent as the next man.
It is the same as Chambers, like him or loath him, he got caught and was given 2 years for it, he served the 2 years. Now whether you agree with 2 years or think it should be 10 or life is not Dwains fault.
He got the punishment and served it so thew slate is wiped clean, unless you are a past it commentator or camp hurdler in which case he should get more punishment.
Don't have a go at the guy who has served his time blame those that punish.
Gaz does 2 years and provided during this time he is clean then good luck to him, and for that matter i hope Wigan
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| Quote Cruncher="Cruncher"I think you'd be surprised how many people who've been convicted of relatively minor offences still participate in the day-to-day life of the nation, without anyone really objecting.
I'm not a liberal when it comes to crime and punishment, but I'm baffled by this notion that Gareth Hock should not only be banned from playing for two years, but should also be reviled, cast out, marginalised, separated from his livelihood for the rest of his days, abhorred, exiled, treated like a leper, call it what you will. Why not go the whole hog and have him flogged, hobbled and branded as well so that, from now on, everyone will know he's an outsider and demand that he be forced to live on the fringe of society?
I can only assume that Gareth Hock being a Wigan player has clouded the thinking of several who've posted on here regarding this matter.'"
No-one is suggesting that Hock be, "reviled, cast out, marginalised, separated from his livelihood for the rest of his days, abhorred, exiled, treated like a leper." However he has had his opportunity at Wigan and blown it. He should be shown the door at Wigan and have to pick up the pieces of his career at another club. Also he should never play rep rugby again.
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| Quote Batesy="Batesy"Just a thought, but does anyone know what happens now?
Does he get tested periodically to make sure he is clean, or is he just cut loose and then will go back to the normal testing routine if he returns to the field?'"
I think so, and we will find out in the next 10 days what IL/the club want to do. Though Im suprised a statement isn't ready to just box off the issue as soon as possible. Unless there is some disagreement somewhere along the line in regard to what Hock can/wants to do.
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| Quote Doveoverdave="Doveoverdave"No-one is suggesting that Hock be, "reviled, cast out, marginalised, separated from his livelihood for the rest of his days, abhorred, exiled, treated like a leper." However he has had his opportunity at Wigan and blown it. He should be shown the door at Wigan and have to pick up the pieces of his career at another club. Also he should never play rep rugby again.'"
Are you ill?
So anyone who makes a mistake and gets punished and serves the punishment correctly should then have their lives ruined as well afterwards.
Do you think people who get banned for speeding should never drive again or shop lifters have their hands cut off?
Pass this man the black cap theres some flogging to be done.
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| Quote Doveoverdave="Doveoverdave"No-one is suggesting that Hock be, "reviled, cast out, marginalised, separated from his livelihood for the rest of his days, abhorred, exiled, treated like a leper." However he has had his opportunity at Wigan and blown it. He should be shown the door at Wigan and have to pick up the pieces of his career at another club. Also he should never play rep rugby again.'" Who are the club punishing then though?
After his ban Hock will inevitably be able to find another club willing to sign him so Wigan have 2 choices - they stand by him and IF he can prove he can stay clean they sign him again at the end of the 2 years, or they let him go and risk him coming back in 2 years and signing for another club and performing well for them.
What you are suggesting it wouldn't be Hock who lost out.
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| Terminate his contract and get rid, Use him as an example for the younger players, what example are we setting if after his ban is up he come back with open arms? IMO it gives Wigan RL a bad reputation as well as a bad example for the youth.
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| Quote Warrior21="Warrior21"Terminate his contract and get rid, Use him as an example for the younger players, what example are we setting if after his ban is up he come back with open arms? IMO it gives Wigan RL a bad reputation as well as a bad example for the youth.'"
The example would be that he's been punished and banned for two years. He's lost a huge amount of money, respect from a lot of his peers, the RL 'family' and the fans. He'd have paid the price for his mistake.
Yes, I'm sure he'll wish he never did it, but there has to be a point where you get a second chance?
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| Quote Smooth Stu="Smooth Stu"The example would be that he's been punished and banned for two years. He's lost a huge amount of money, respect from a lot of his peers, the RL 'family' and the fans. He'd have paid the price for his mistake.
Yes, I'm sure he'll wish he never did it, but there has to be a point where you get a second chance?'"
Agreed, he can only do the punishment he has been given, if people think it is not enough then have a word with those who set it not Gaz.
Once he has done this then he is eligable to play like anyone else.
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| Quote Warrior21="Warrior21"Terminate his contract and get rid, Use him as an example for the younger players, what example are we setting if after his ban is up he come back with open arms? IMO it gives Wigan RL a bad reputation as well as a bad example for the youth.'"
You like the governing bodies are getting carried away.
Gaz Hock took some none performance enhancing drugs.... whoopie friggin doo. 2 year ban is way over the top. Yes he was out of order and yes some punishment but not the public hanging wished for on here.
Other big named players have done worse... kick a door down and assault the occupant ~ no punishment from RL, 3 times over the drink drive limit putting lives at risk ( 3 big name stars ?) ~ no punishment from RL even the Refferee recently accused and cautioned with spot fine for drunken behaviour  ~ no punishment by RL.
We are being governed by outdated laws with punishments and consequences often not fitting the crimes.
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| So you think taking concain is acceptable? Get a grip mate. No wonder the country is how it is with people like you making excuses for a drug addict your a joke.
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