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[color=red:1qsyq8gi]Super League Champions
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Pat Richards: Man Of Steel
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[quote="Wire_91":1qsyq8gi]its your first final in about 8 years and now you ravin and rantin about it F**k off, and ill be going old trafford tomoz cheering on the saints and ill be writing on this forum givin you loads of shi* when your drying you eyes and the wire fan will be here handing out the tissues in the thousands, thats if you do take that many fans cause now it looks like its your fans who have jumped on the band wagon now your in a final, this time last year there was only 1000 people in the jjb and now its fillin up cause youve won the league hahaha proper true supporters you are[/quote:1qsyq8gi]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_26076.jpg |
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| Quote: Dougy "You have got to be taken the p155?!!!!!!
are you saying a club getting 300 in a 400 capacity ground is more impressive than a club getting 50,000 in a 80,000 capacity ground?!!!
Well to answer my own question, yes it is! Poor scouser!'"
Dont you mean no it isnt?
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| Quote: Mother Feka "Dont you mean no it isnt?
No, yes it is! Thats is what he is saying!
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| Quote: Dougy "No, yes it is! Thats is what he is saying!'"
i think you meant, "yes, you do"
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| Quote: inside_man "i think you meant, "yes, you do"'"
gawwwd, i wish i hadn't have put anything!
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| Quote: Dougy "gawwwd, i wish i hadn't have put anything!'"
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| When all is said and done we need big crowds at all our grounds. In the current climate we should be looking at getting families of four in for £25
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| Quote: wigan_knight "£18 To stand in that embarressment, you should be greatful you get any away support.'"
Especially as you regularly go home the losers.
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Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
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| Quote: Dougy "You have got to be taken the p155?!!!!!!
are you saying a club getting 300 in a 400 capacity ground is more impressive than a club getting 50,000 in a 80,000 capacity ground?!!!
Well to answer my own question, yes it is! Poor scouser!'"
In business terms and profit margins probably a yes.
20000@ £10 ..........£200 000 (Wigoon Land)
15000@ £16.......... £240 000 (Saints Ghetto)
No wonder y0ur club can,t buy any decent players if the club is mathematical deficient.
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[size=75:2n7j1gh7][color=red:2n7j1gh7]WIGAN RLFC IS MORE THAN A RUGBY CLUB - IT'S A RELIGION[/color:2n7j1gh7][/size:2n7j1gh7]
[size=75:2n7j1gh7][color=black:2n7j1gh7]There will always be a Wigan Warriors no matter what the bitter & twisted blues say[/color:2n7j1gh7][/size:2n7j1gh7]:25472.jpg |
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| Quote: Saint Simon "you're right, but its an expensive gamble.
asuming wigan have around 10k season ticket holders and Saints 6k. Wigan sold about 10000 tickets at £10 -£5 (call it £9 for ease) Saints sold 9500 tickets at £22 - £8 (call it £15 for ease again). Wigan took about £90000, Saints £142500.'"
You have not included for any refreshments in your total, the queues were there all through the game
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40218_1286737075.jpg Success is not final; failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts. (Winston Churchill):d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_40218.jpg |
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| Quote: wigan_knight "£18 To stand in that embarressment, you should be greatful you get any away support.'"
It isn't an embarrassment. It's an artifact!
Besides, someone had to pay for the dodgy floodlight (along with the dodgy roofs and dodgy toilets and dodgy pretty much everything else). I think all the money from the gate goes into just keeping Knowsley Road standing. It's, er, why we need a new stadium!
At least you get a roof at your end, unlike when you visit Leeds (who charge £20 for the privilege). Just a pity more of you didn't turn up on Friday. There were fewer of you than the last time you played at our place but I thought there would be more given that you beat us the previous time out.
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icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg Officially RLFAN's most Doe-eyed Happy Clapper.
Big Steve wrote:
The Internet has provided some wonderful creativity, opportunities and knowledge sharing but it has also given a worldwide forum for people you would leave a full pint behind in the pub to avoid having to listen to them.
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If you don't bother to go to the game when you live in the locality then you are not really a fan and therefore your views are invalid. It's simple.:icons39ad_files/4821-1859san_c-msnicons.jpg |
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| Quote: SaintsFan "It isn't an embarrassment. It's an artifact!
Besides, someone had to pay for the dodgy floodlight (along with the dodgy roofs and dodgy toilets and dodgy pretty much everything else). I think all the money from the gate goes into just keeping Knowsley Road standing. It's, er, why we need a new stadium!
At least you get a roof at your end, unlike when you visit Leeds (who charge £20 for the privilege). Just a pity more of you didn't turn up on Friday. There were fewer of you than the last time you played at our place but I thought there would be more given that you beat us the previous time out.
Surely, as you are all such wonderful suportive fans, you should be able to fill the "Artifact" all on your own, each week, But for some reason, you get nowhere near. God help you if you ever become less succesful..
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Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
Welsby-Dodd-Simms-Eaves-Rizzelli, not Eastmond...the future is coming.:Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG |
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| Quote: Wigan Peer "Surely, as you are all such wonderful suportive fans, you should be able to fill the "Artifact" all on your own, each week, But for some reason, you get nowhere near. God help you if you ever become less succesful..'"
Will you be using the 2500 fans at Central Park when you got relegated as a typical example.
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[b:2boqkfe7][color=#800000:2boqkfe7]WIGAN RLFC - SL ERA
WORLD CLUB CHAMPIONS 2017 & 2024
SUPER LEAGUE CHAMPIONS 1998, 2010, 2013, 2016, 2018, 2023 & 2024
CHALLENGE CUP FINAL WINNERS 2002, 2011, 2013, 2022 & 2024
LEAGUE LEADERS CHAMPIONS 2010, 2012, 2020, 2023 & 2024
ACADEMY GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019 & 2024
WOMEN’S GRAND FINAL WINNERS 2018
BEST SUPPORTED CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010, 2011, 2012 & 2024
CLUB OF THE YEAR 2010 & 2012
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| Quote: Judder Man "In business terms and profit margins probably a yes.
20000@ £10 ..........£200 000 (Wigoon Land) v Leeds
15000@ £16.......... £240 000 (Saints Ghetto) v Wigan
No wonder y0ur club can,t buy any decent players if the club is mathematical deficient.'"
If you're going to compare at least compare like for like opponents (and using your maths formula) Wigan
22,000 @ £16 ...........£352,000 v Stains at JJB
20,000 @ £10 ...........£200,000 v Leeds at JJB
Total Revenue - £552,000
Stains
15,000 @ £16 ...........£240,000 v Wigan at KR
14,000 @ £16 ............£224,000 v Leeds at KR
Total Revenue - £464,000
Then again we could discuss revenue for over the season as both Wigan & Stains have had 11 home games, Hell.....I'll even knock a pound off the whole season to cover reduced prices for the Leeds game Wigan
Total attendance so far - 157,097 @ £15 £2,356,455
Average so far Stains
Total attendance so far - 129188 @ £16 £2,067,008
Average so far
Left to play
Wigan - Warrington (h) 20K plus expected & Hull FC (h) 15K plus expected
Stains - Hudds (h) less than 10K expected, Catalans (h)less than 9K expected.
I'd expect Wigan to come in 400-500K over and above Stains at the end of the season.
So what was you saying about our club not buying any decent players as we are mathematically deficient?
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Dwarfs, Gnomes, Halflings/GNOME2.JPG The new young dynasty of super saints is coming to a ground near you.
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| Quote: MattyB "If you're going to compare at least compare like for like opponents (and using your maths formula)Wigan
22,000 @ £16 ...........£352,000 v Stains at JJB
20,000 @ £10 ...........£200,000 v Leeds at JJB
Total Revenue - £552,000
Stains
15,000 @ £16 ...........£240,000 v Wigan at KR
14,000 @ £16 ............£224,000 v Leeds at KR
Total Revenue - £464,000
Then again we could discuss revenue for over the season as both Wigan & Stains have had 11 home games, Hell.....I'll even knock a pound off the whole season to cover reduced prices for the Leeds gameWigan
Total attendance so far - 157,097 @ £15 £2,356,455
Average so farStains
Total attendance so far - 129188 @ £16 £2,067,008
Average so far
Left to play
Wigan - Warrington (h) 20K plus expected & Hull FC (h) 15K plus expected
Stains - Hudds (h) less than 10K expected, Catalans (h)less than 9K expected.
I'd expect Wigan to come in 400-500K over and above Stains at the end of the season.
So what was you saying about our club not buying any decent players as we are mathematically deficient?
You've just proved my point, if Wigan are say 0.5 million over Saints turnover, how come Wigan don,t have better players and are a more successful team than saints. Is it because saints players give better value for money and the wigan get there maths wrong by overpaying average players. Surely this mathematically deficient.
Also if you look at Asset values the Wigan club is of little value, where as in 2011 saints new stadium will have an asset value of £25 000 000.
Surely this is mathematically defecient.
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| Quote: Judder Man "You've just proved my point, if Wigan are say 0.5 million over Saints turnover, how come Wigan don,t have better players and are a more successful team than saints. Is it because saints players give better value for money and the wigan get there maths wrong by overpaying average players. Surely this mathematically deficient.
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It's because we are only two years of being a proper run club. Between late 1999 and late 2007 we were bankrolled appallingly by Dave Whelan who just never run the club in a proper way. That's why we did nothing on the field of play. Throughout that spelt it just went worse and worse and worse with no real idea of how to control the salary cap. Compare that to Saints who have been very well run and thats the difference between the clubs.
You can't just change it overnight but Lenegan will get there I'm confident of that.
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Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1 | | PLD | F | A | DIFF | PTS |
Wigan |
29 |
768 |
338 |
430 |
48 |
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Hull KR |
29 |
731 |
344 |
387 |
44 |
Warrington |
29 |
769 |
351 |
418 |
42 |
Leigh |
29 |
580 |
442 |
138 |
33 |
Salford |
28 |
556 |
561 |
-5 |
32 |
St.Helens |
28 |
618 |
411 |
207 |
30 |
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Catalans |
27 |
475 |
427 |
48 |
30 |
Leeds |
27 |
530 |
488 |
42 |
28 |
Huddersfield |
27 |
468 |
658 |
-190 |
20 |
Castleford |
27 |
425 |
735 |
-310 |
15 |
Hull FC |
27 |
328 |
894 |
-566 |
6 |
LondonB |
27 |
317 |
916 |
-599 |
6 |
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Wakefield |
27 |
1032 |
275 |
757 |
52 |
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Toulouse |
26 |
765 |
388 |
377 |
37 |
Bradford |
28 |
723 |
420 |
303 |
36 |
York |
29 |
695 |
501 |
194 |
32 |
Widnes |
27 |
561 |
502 |
59 |
29 |
Featherstone |
27 |
634 |
525 |
109 |
28 |
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Sheffield |
26 |
626 |
526 |
100 |
28 |
Doncaster |
26 |
498 |
619 |
-121 |
25 |
Halifax |
26 |
509 |
650 |
-141 |
22 |
Batley |
26 |
422 |
591 |
-169 |
22 |
Swinton |
28 |
484 |
676 |
-192 |
20 |
Barrow |
25 |
442 |
720 |
-278 |
19 |
Whitehaven |
25 |
437 |
826 |
-389 |
18 |
Dewsbury |
27 |
348 |
879 |
-531 |
4 |
Hunslet |
1 |
6 |
10 |
-4 |
0 |
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