Reality check mate. Tomkins, is a fine young player, but he is not yet ready to be put in the same bracket as Trent yet alone to be classed as being X10 his better. Tomkins has all the ingredients to be a world class player he just needs the time to grow and the patience with the ball in hand to build up pressure and exploit the gaps. His all round game is not as good as Trents IMO. But he is only young.

Agreed - but given a choice between Tomkins and Barrett, I'd choose Tomkins every time - he's home grown and to see him develop into a world class player will be exciting to watch, whereas Barrett had reached his pinnacle long before he arrived at Wigan and frankly looked disinterested in his second season.

If we actually played rugby for the full season rather than trying to suddenly become a team at the end of the season in the big games Sam and the rest of them would not make half the errors they do in these big games, this is the reason why we cannot advance beyond the semi, they are more clinical due to being better drilled in game time.

Still I forgot, we are happy to support a team of nearly men these days who only play for 5 weeks a year but when the pressure is on come up with the errors due to the fact we have not practiced them in the season.

Yeah we all know that problems at home lead to Trent's on field performance, but how would you feel knowing you where the best player in your field, just to get shafted in the MOS awards.
But I just wonder what our luck would be like this year if Trent had honoured his last year of his 3 year deal. Trent, Tomkins & Tommy. In the half back roles.

You're either a dummy or a double-agent. Either way -

Sam probably wouldn't have got a game, like last year.

I know we will never find out but how good could Sam have been, if he would have had the benefit of an an extra year learning fom Trent???

Said a few weeks back how good would it have been if we'd have had Barrett at 6, Sam at 7 and Leuluai at hooker!

I'd have loved to have seen that.

I do blame the 's who voted the MOS in 2007, (

well done dicks) IMO Trents professional ego was severally dented and that was a big driving fact in him going back home. Lets face it some 40min punk gets MOS yet New South Wales want you to come back and play SoO. As an Oz what is he going to do???

Tommy came to us as a 7, and isn't a bad one.

He goes OK at hooker for me, I've never seen him set the world alight, but then I didn't see alot of the world cup so maybe he really is an awesome 9.

Our coach may well be playing him at 9, but only because our other hooker is injured. Tommy is the best 7 we've got considering sam has to play 6.

Still Nobles fault though

think his missus had more to do with it than anything. about 95% of it.

The only two things Brough would bring to Wigan is

1 - Penalties conceded
2 - Kicking Game