Out of interest Jon, which would you prefer out of the following 2 scenarios:

1. Wigan play "well" all year, tail off a bit to the end, and finish 4th.

2. Wigan play sporadic all year, hit form come the playoffs and make the Grand final.

I know you weren't asking me but 2.

Leeds and Tony Smith were slated by some of the more knee jerky Leeds fans throughout 2007 for some disjointed performances but ultimately finished 2nd on the ladder. They then mullered Saints at Old Trafford.

As long as you qualify for the playoffs it doesnt matter how many you've lost up until then.

A team only has to finish eigth for the play-offs which means losing more than half its games. For a team on top salary cap it's a poor performance and gives no chance of a grand final.

I dont think we will see a great deal more him either, just plodding on, go taybarns, plod on, go taybarns, plod on, go taybarns and then back to Australia with a wedge of cash at the end.

Why are these the only options?

Neither have been anywhere near realistic in the last 2/3 years.

We are no closer to the top 2 and have infact been caught by the rest of the league.

I'll third that.

I think Bailey makes a good point on main website, when he says, 'It is so frustrating though. Just look at Cas, they have won four games by six points or less this season. We have lost four by one try or having scored the same amount of tries as the other team. Cas are now third and we are ninth!! The line between winning and losing is closer than ever before and unfortunately at the minute we are a victim of that.'

We could be so hyped up at this point in the season if lady luck bounced a little bit more our way.

Time is up for MattyB

Shouldn't you be out on your trampoline now, Damo?

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I’ve set up bogy traps everywhere that get you site wide bans and s**t

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