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What a load of crapola, so you want us to one man tackle text book style and gently place them on the floor?
Pathetic.
Damaged the English game? An aggressive defence
Well done - you've successfully argued against a position I didn't take in the first place.
The classic straw man fallacy - how very VT.
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| Quote: bren2k "Would you entertain the consideration that the coaches, players and fans who've raised the same concerns this season and last can't all be part of some great anti-Wigan conspiracy and that maybe, just maybe, there could be something in it?'"
It is as I said a bandwagon. One of the first to set it going was Nathan Brown which was very ironic since he adopted the same style of player a year before we did. Several coaches have a dummy spit when they get thumped and he is one. He got fined recently I think for saying his players would take things into their own hands but that was for comments against another club. The thing is he said [iexactly the same thing [/iv Wigan and nothing was done. Instead he set this bandwagon rolling and sub-standard coaches looking for an excuse jumped on. Kear is another and he trotted out the same daft nonsense last season and it has grown from there in my opinion. What is more you rarely ever see it mentioned when we lose! The fans just jumped on it the same way. It's clear to me most just can't stand any Wigan success and look to belittle it any way that they can and I think it is pathetic.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
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| Quote: DaveO "It is as I said a bandwagon. One of the first to set it going was Nathan Brown which was very ironic since he adopted the same style of player a year before we did. Several coaches have a dummy spit when they get thumped and he is one. He got fined recently I think for saying his players would take things into their own hands but that was for comments against another club. The thing is he said [iexactly the same thing [/iv Wigan and nothing was done. Instead he set this bandwagon rolling and sub-standard coaches looking for an excuse jumped on. Kear is another and he trotted out the same daft nonsense last season and it has grown from there in my opinion. What is more you rarely ever see it mentioned when we lose! The fans just jumped on it the same way. It's clear to me most just can't stand any Wigan success and look to belittle it any way that they can and I think it is pathetic.'"
Spot on!
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| Quote: DaveO "It is as I said a bandwagon. One of the first to set it going was Nathan Brown which was very ironic since he adopted the same style of player a year before we did. Several coaches have a dummy spit when they get thumped and he is one. He got fined recently I think for saying his players would take things into their own hands but that was for comments against another club. The thing is he said [iexactly the same thing [/iv Wigan and nothing was done. Instead he set this bandwagon rolling and sub-standard coaches looking for an excuse jumped on. Kear is another and he trotted out the same daft nonsense last season and it has grown from there in my opinion. What is more you rarely ever see it mentioned when we lose! The fans just jumped on it the same way. It's clear to me most just can't stand any Wigan success and look to belittle it any way that they can and I think it is pathetic.'"
Thank you for at least making a sensible reply - more than some of your colleagues could manage.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the content though - personally, I think it's a massive leap of faith to suggest that all the criticism of Maguire's tactics are invalid and that it's all a bandwagon that Nathan Brown put into motion; that suggests a case of mass hysteria that I just can't buy into.
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| Quote: bren2k "Thank you for at least making a sensible reply - more than some of your colleagues could manage.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the content though - personally, I think it's a massive leap of faith to suggest that all the criticism of Maguire's tactics are invalid and that it's all a bandwagon that Nathan Brown put into motion; that suggests a case of mass hysteria that I just can't buy into.'"
But you'll happily buy into the mass hysteria surrounding Sam, our tactics, etc, etc? Just call it for what it is - we are the Man U of RL. I don't expect everyone to be ecstatic at our resurgence but to claim we are actually damaging the sport is total cr4p. If you want to look at clubs doing just that you would be well advised starting very much closer to home.
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| Quote: jinkin jimmy "But you'll happily buy into the mass hysteria surrounding Sam, our tactics, etc, etc? Just call it for what it is - we are the Man U of RL. I don't expect everyone to be ecstatic at our resurgence but to claim we are actually damaging the sport is total cr4p. If you want to look at clubs doing just that you would be well advised starting very much closer to home.'"
Spot on re the damage done to the game.
We develop young quality players as Leeds and Saints do but someothers cant be bothered. Damage is one to our game by clubs who do not develop them. But rather wait and feed off the scraps we let go.
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| Quote: vintage73 "www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3186
bad lad'"
Helpful post, we all thought he should get away with it
He should get 8 games.
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| Quote: Dave26 "Helpful post, we all thought he should get away with it .'"
lowest form of wit
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| Quote: Dave26 "Helpful post, we all thought he should get away with it
Plus another couple for the punch.
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| Quote: vintage73 "lowest form of wit
Best way to get your point across though.
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| Quote: bren2k "Thank you for at least making a sensible reply - more than some of your colleagues could manage.
We'll have to agree to disagree on the content though - personally, I think it's a massive leap of faith to suggest that all the criticism of Maguire's tactics are invalid and that it's all a bandwagon that Nathan Brown put into motion; that suggests a case of mass hysteria that I just can't buy into.'"
How do you think bandwagon's get started? Someone has a daft idea and others jump on. Until Brown said what he did I doubt the thought had crossed Kear's mind. Or any other coaches for that matter. Nor it's just a predictable sound bite.
If bandwagon doesn't suit your view of the comments made about how Wigan play because that means it's mass hysteria how about cliché? It's at least that IMO.
Do you know what? I am glad the Internet wasn't freely available in the 80's and 90's when we were so successful. I dread to think what would have been posted back then.
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| [sizeI need to read the AUP before I post again.[/size
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| Quote: AJ Carr "[sizeI need to read the AUP before I post again[/size '"
I think the link to the RFL disciplinary page was more useful and factual than another article, but thank's for bringing the incidents to our attention once again.
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